Neutral view regarding atmosphere

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  1. Sim

    Simon De Montforte Well-Known Member

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    Not really a neutral then. I'd expect the same comments from a Wednesday fan.
     
    Simon De Montforte, Mar 12, 2023
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  2. Gimson&theBarnsleys

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    They've nivver scored when I've been there. :D
     
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    It was scone/gone in our house.
     
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    No it isn't. They mean exactly the same thing.
     
    Jay, Mar 12, 2023
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    I should hope they could hear Plymouth singing when they were sat with them.

    The ground is poor for sound quality. I could barely hear the Ponty the other night sat in the North Stand even though it was apparently loud.
     
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    Not in my dikshunnri..:)
     
    Mr C, Mar 12, 2023
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    The Queen's English!
     
    Redarmy87, Mar 12, 2023
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    Sorry, but could you not have explained in your original post that you were referring to an idiot?
     
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    'Whilst' is often used to describe contrast and 'while' in the context of time. One example of when 'while' definitely isn't acceptable to use is when people say 'I'm working 9 while 5'. And many do.
     
    Redarmy87, Mar 12, 2023
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  10. Mr C

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    It’s used in reference to relative co-current events or aspects. Fi’s thoughts implied a future occurrence, so while is correct.Touch & go that one, though.. :)
     
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    But as it's used in the first part of the sentence - 'whilst the club is doing its best' - and therefore referring to present circumstance, i think we can allow it :D
     
    Redarmy87, Mar 12, 2023
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    That says it all lol.
     
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    Jay, Mar 12, 2023
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    It's not touch and go. They both mean exactly the same thing. 'Whilst' is a bit more formal, purely because it's the traditional English pronunciation, where as 'While' has been adopted by Americans and as America dominate the media and don't have the same class system, it feels more 'everyman'. But there is no grammatical difference and your correction was simply wrong.
     
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    My dodgy steam froze so I changed to Plymouths stream. Usually on iptv they are both the home commentary but yesterday plymouths had their comm on. At 2-0 up their guy was raving about the atmosphere from the Barnsley fans
     
    andytyke, Mar 12, 2023
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    It's not just about meaning, it's about when it can be used. The Oxford dictionary points out “while” can be used as a noun, verb, or preposition – “whilst” cannot https://www.dailywritingtips.com/the-difference-between-while-and-whilst/ I don't actually see a problem with it being used in the original post, unlike @Mr C. But it's an interesting debate. Maybe we need a boat race to decide it? :D
     
    Redarmy87, Mar 12, 2023
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    Or a round at the Eaton Wall Game
     
    Jay, Mar 12, 2023
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    But they don’t, that’s why they’re different words.. A bit like though, even though & although. It’s about context of time, concurrent or future, in regard to Fi’s wording.
    Please don’t take away one of my few excuses to be a tw@t.. :)
     
    Mr C, Mar 12, 2023
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    Playing devil’s advocate:

    Surely his correction was correct (albeit unnecessarily) if they mean the same thing?
     
    JamDrop, Mar 12, 2023
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