New Road Tax - If you drive a car, please read!

RE: Its been known for years that the M1 Wakey to Leeds

You drive 50 miles a day to get to work!!!! Thats terrible, find work closer to home or move closer to your workplace.

Carrying on as we have done is not working.

We need to completely rethink how we go about our lives.

 

RE: Its been known for years that the M1 Wakey to Leeds

But rampant house price inflation is preventing people from moving closer to work.

 

Easier said than done

I'm a nurse but work in a highly specialised field. So have to work in big city hospital. Salary means housing in big city too expensive and wanted to live somewhere where kids could have reasonable QoL rather than growing up in big city.

So either I work locally at the heap that is up on the hill and take a massive cut in salary, prestige & work outside my specialist area or commute.

 

Just out of interest..

Would you live in rented accomodation provided by the NHS if such accomodation were available and of a decent standard and in the right area?

 

RE: Easier said than done

In that case, as well as introduce taxation, we need better public transport and or housing deals for key workers.

But, just carrying on as before will not work.

 

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and hubby works in a different city.

NHS accom never been suitable for growing families either & in the last 20 years its been imperative to get on property ladder

 

Which, in a fashion, adds some weight to what Rosco is saying...

Unless there is some intervention (and I'm not necessarily advocating this, by the way) the whole situation is going to get worse and worse. The congestion and house prices / cost of living problems are, in some way, linked - only by making people think about the situation (and, in the case of most people, the only way to do that is talk to them financially) and change their ways of life will it ever get better.

I don't believe in simply charging people for the mileage they do but there has to be some acknowledgement that there is a problem and motorists are pretty much the root cause of it...

 

RE: Not available

I was talikng hypotectically, ie if the NHS/Government made a proper commitment to provide such accomodation, would you use it?

 

RE: Not available

I was talking hypothetically, i.e. if the NHS/Government made a proper commitment to provide such accommodation, would you use it?

 

RE: Easier said than done

How do you get to the match... er... yes I know you walked to Leeds !!! </p>

Do you use public transport and if not why not?</p>

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RE: Easier said than done

How do you get to the match... er... yes I know you walked to Leeds !!! </p>

Do you use public transport and if not why not?</p>

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Rubbish

I like my car, I pay my car tax (well, I don't, but thats another story) and I'm damn well going to keep using my car.

Oh, sorry, automatic reaction.

As with most things in life its about carrot and stick, what in actual fact has been proposed is local congestion charging pilot schemes and more money for public transport. What that actually means in practice we will have to wait and see, but its a start. Unfortunately, we now have a privatised public transport system, so we subsidise it with public money and then have to pay them to use it ourselves. It would make much more sense to nationalise it again and then it can be properly integrated and managed.

 

RE: Easier said than done

No, I don't use public transport, I drive over in my car on a journey I have a love hate relationship with (Woodhead!!!) For evening games I get stuck (and am part of the cause of) some horrible congestion at the end of the M67 and on in Mottram and Tintwistle. I curse the all other drivers and their stupidity every time I am caught in such a jam.

I could use public transport, but I am lazy and have time constraints - for evening games I have to pick up my daughter from nursery and get her home before I can set off. I would then have to get the tram into Manchester and a train to Huddersfield or Sheffield and then one to Barnsley. It may be possible to do this, but it would be very close, however, I am prepared to give it a go if I must. For weekend games I pop over to my mothers house and I have my wife and daughter in the car most times, on those occasions the traffic is light and I am not in any congestion.

I do commute into work, but as I have mentioned, I take my daughter with me, its not easy to cycle (my preffered way of getting to work) in a city with an 18month old child with development problems on the back of your bike.

I don't live that far from my place of work, I used to commute over form Barnsley to Manchester (via Glossop where i caught a train) but it was killing me.

 

So you don't think the motorist is the most persecuted group since...

...the Jews in Nazi Germany? I do - Jeremy Clarkson keeps telling me so it must be true...

Agree wholeheartedly about re-nationalising public transport.

What a lot of people simply don't accept is that things cannot continue as they are - something needs to be done. I don't necessarily think that something should solely be charging people more for using their cars (which, I think, is where the government is struggling a little bit considering their obsession with all things private and being a little too scared to talk about "government intervention" - their only solution is "charge"). Saying that, it's, sort of, a start...

It is tied in with the whole housing / cost of living thing - especially regards public sector workers...

Definitely regardings public sector workers - big pay rises and government housing subsidies all round, especially teachers...

 

RE: Which, in a fashion, adds some weight to what Rosco is saying...

I think there's some merit in doing nothing about the roads and leaving them to become so bad that people make their own decision to either move house or job or use an alternative way of getting there.

I got the train on Friday that went past the new development at Cortonwood. The train goes right past the back of Matalan etc, car parks are packed. It'd be so easy to put a station there and reduce the traffic.

 

So you don't think the motorist is the most persecuted group since...

...the Jews in Nazi Germany? I do - Jeremy Clarkson keeps telling me so it must be true...

Agree wholeheartedly about re-nationalising public transport.

What a lot of people simply don't accept is that things cannot continue as they are - something needs to be done. I don't necessarily think that something should solely be charging people more for using their cars (which, I think, is where the government is struggling a little bit considering their obsession with all things private and being a little too scared to talk about "government intervention" - their only solution is "charge"). Saying that, it's, sort of, a start...

It is tied in with the whole housing / cost of living thing - especially regards public sector workers...

Definitely regardings public sector workers - big pay rises and government housing subsidies all round, especially teachers...

 

RE: So you don't think the motorist is the most persecuted group since...

Are you sure that was Jeremy Clarkson and not somebody who posts on here? Sounds very similar!

 

Naw mate...

That's the straight, white man. That said - it could be the straight, white, male motorist!



Actually, just to clarify, I'm not sure Jeremy Clarkson actually said that although he has certainly implied it over the years. Of course, he'd know - coming from that most persecuted group of all - middle-class, public schoolboys...

Jeremy Clarkson - T*sser...

 

question - what about foreign vehicles? i.e. trucks will registar in EU

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