New variant found in UK

You honestly couldn't make my night or spoil anything of mine, you just don't carry that kind of power.

And lets be right, it wasn't intentional, you're just not very good at this.

 

To be fair, although it’s a bit of a blunt strategy, I do think the vaccine being a universal offer is based on the best evidence available at this point. Given the fears about potential hospital pressures (exacerbated by many of the same things as I ranted about above), even the very small proportion of younger people who get seriously ill as a result of Covid could have a significant impact on hospital capacity when you consider it over the population as a whole. So it’s probably worth them getting jabbed at this point. And I think there’s some evidence that antibodies do have an impact on transmission (think it was the SIREN study? It’s late or I’d Google). So I don’t think it’s a result of govt policy being driven by big pharma. As an almost relevant aside, if this sort of stuff interests you there’s a great book by Ben Goldacre called Bad Pharma which lays out many of the nefarious activities of the pharmaceutical industry while at the same time being a brilliant advocate for evidence-based medicine. I came across it as part of my MSc a few years ago but would have happily read it (and have since re-read it) purely for enjoyment (but I’m a bit of a geek like that).

Who knows, we might see a more targeted vaccination programme in future as we learn more about the virus and come up with new ways to treat it. So maybe we won’t all be trooping along for yearly boosters for ever. It’s still pretty early days in terms of the disease (even though it feels like ****.ing forever). I’m just guessing though.

 

If that helps you sleep better that's fine.i will too knowing that.its nice we can share this isn't it.
Love you x

 

Ok, off you pop.

 

After you sweet cheeks

 

I think if we turn the TV off. We all have normal lifes.

 

I have absolutely no problem with the vaccine being a universal offer. I do believe our limited resources would be better focused elsewhere, and I also believe that any research into this, as far as lives saved per pound sterling spent, would validate this a million fold, but that's by the by. The population is spooked, so there is more than just public health at stake. But a universal offer and a universal mandate are poles apart, and we've got the latter. And we've got it with support from the populace which is unprecedented. Our generations are going to be studied for a long time on how humans can be influenced. What happened with fascism in the early to mid 20th century is nothing on this.

 

PS I'll take a look at that book, thank you for the recommendation.

 

F'k me Jay - you do yourself no favours posting like that. Why so aggressive?

 

There is no aggression intended, it's a genuine plea to everyone to think about what we're being told about this because it really doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny.

A couple of days ago the prime minister of our country stood before the nation's media and stated that they didn't know if the current vaccines were effective against this new strain, and then urged everyone to get vaccinated to combat it and that booster vaccines would be made available to more people, yet no one questioned him.

I don't believe it's aggressive to urge people to think rather than just accept, particularly when, as was the case with the point I responded to, our media are attempting to undermine medical professionals who had firsthand experience of this. They'll not question why we should further extend a vaccine program that we don't know works but they're happy to sow the seeds of doubt when someone states that, you know what, maybe you don't have to put the nation into a state of panic again.

 

The vaccination works against the previous strains of covid though Jay and that's why I'll be getting my booster asap.
Not because of the new variant though I hope it turns out that it works against that too.
If another completely different but dangerous disease appears next year and they find a vaccine for that I'll have that too as I'm sure you will.
I fully accept that our government, most governments, are mired in various levels of sleaze and corruption. I don't accept though, that they've managed to subborn practically every doctor, medical expert and specialist in disease to their cause. As long as the vast majority of those people are advising me to wear a mask, get vaccinated, stand on my head before breakfast that's what I'll do until such time as I have reason to believe they're lying.

 

I think it is because it won’t be able to get a foothold if it is less transmittable than delta. Most of the other variants vanish without trace for that reason. This one is on the March, so it is now a concern.

We know it is spreading quickly, but I guess there isn’t yet enough data to know the full effects in terms of impacting health.

 

I have no issue with the government recommending the vaccine to combat the strain of the virus currently in circulation or anyone choosing to have it.

 

If we act now and it isn't dangerous we look a bit silly. If we wait and see and it is dangerous then we fill up the hospitals again. I know which risk I'd sooner take.

 

I think this is the point surely. Although changing nothing apart from wearing a mask in the odd place surely won't do much to combat it IF it's a more dangerous variant.

In other news, don't feed the troll boys and girls.

 

You can't cite our PM as an example - he's an effin idiot, a bumbling waste of space who says the first thing that comes into his head.

As for vaccinating everyone?

When no one was vaccinated and we had our first lockdown the hospitals were swamped and deaths were high.

Then when a few people had their first vaccine we had the second wave and another lockdown and the hospitals were swamped and there were even more deaths.

Now we have very high uptake of double vaccinations and even a few boosters and no lockdown and a great easing of restrictions (masks have only just come back in today) and the hospitals are not swamped.

So why do you think we shouldn't have very high vaccine take up?

 

Lost to Covid idiocy.

 

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I'm not sure why you're asking me that as I'm not arguing against vaccination.

 

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