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  1. Deafening Silence

    Deafening Silence Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with people calling out individuals, groups, nation states, whatever for their actions, but don’t see how Newcastle United, which was a commodity up for sale, can be blamed for the state of human rights in another country, in the same way that Ford can’t be held responsible for still making petrol/diesel cars.
    For me it’s just another stick to bash a different football club with.
     
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    Googled it yeah Saudi has the 2nd Venezuela 1st.
     
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    Agree people should be looking more at the f.a for letting these people buy premier league teams.
     
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    Let's be honest, if the Saudis (or similar) were looking at buying Barnsley FC, aside from a few the move would be met with more discussion of which big name signings would be coming. There would undoubtedly be a handful (myself included) who decided that the sports washing wasn't for them and walked away but there would be many more who stayed, not to mention all the new fans.
     
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    To be fair USA don’t export any of it (and also import quite a bit), so it’s easy not to be aware.
     
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    Yeah they produced the most, but they are still a net importer - they use a bloody lot too. Export nothing and import quite a bit.
     
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    I can’t wait until all vehicles are electric. See how that works out for them.
     
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    Is that really going to happen though? We haven't got the infrastructure, and people without off-road parking will struggle. And isn't hydrogen or other 'clean' fuel going to overtake electric anyway?
     
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    They'll be laughing, whilst producing oil to fire power stations to produce the electricity.

    Vicious circle.
     
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    Did tha nivver watch Dallas :)
     
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    Which ever it is there gonna have to crack on as they reckon there is only around 47 years left of oil at current consumption rate.
     
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    I can’t wait for it to get windier!
     
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    Can you post a link to this, as it seems a bit extreme.
     
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    I find the idea that Newcastle fans should hold some kind of responsibility for the people that own them ridiculous given that our own government is in bed with them.

    Nearly 14 million voted for a Tory government that’s in bed with them. They chose to support a government that backs the Saudi regime. Newcastle fans didn’t choose the Saudi’s. Go pick a row with them not a largely working class fan base who just want a release on a weekend after working all week.

    Mike Ashley took a booming football club with an adoring fan base to 15 years of misery spending less than clubs like Bournemouth whilst plastering the club in Sports Direct advertisements & other companies he owned. He took them from regular European football to two relegations & battling to survive every season whilst telling the management to play second string sides in the cups.

    Wherever the money came from they just wanted a bit of hope, some ambition & to get their club back.

    The real issue are our Government & the FA for allowing the takeover to happen in the first place not the football club itself.
     
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    Sprouts & beans , it`s the future
     
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    Yep - I have to agree - can't see how the fans can be expected to stand up to problems created principally by the FA/Premier League (who have been rolled-over by the financial power of the Saudi State).
    I think there will increasingly be protests at Newcastle games though - as the club are now an obvious target/platform - so hopefully the hard questions will keep being put to those who actually sanctioned the takeover.
    As a sometimes attendee at St James's Park - I can tell you the change in mood of the fanbase since Ashley was finally ousted, and the push on fan engagement by the new owners, is on a whole other level.
     
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    Sport and politics should be kept separate but the Saudi purchase was a political move pushed through by that bastion of honesty and integrity - Boris Johnson.

    Seriously how can the Premier League watch players taking the knee each week while a member club is a front for one of the vilest countries on earth.

    Yes we trade with them but Government business should always be separate from sport. Our Govts have also talked and negotiated with the Taliban, the IRA etc etc, should we let them buy football clubs as well if they had the money?
     
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