No better team than last season - in spite of all Daveys signings.

RE: What a load of ****

Our downfall this season in the league has been Davys bizarre tactical 'experiments' away from home,and the re-signing of Nardiello who he still persists in playing which means when he's on the pitch we only have 10 men.That was a long sentence which took more effort than Nardiello has shown this season. We'll still win the Cup and avoid the drop though

 

He played plenty of games in the Championship last season

IIRC, SD extended his contract last summer. It's unclear why he has been largely on the sidelines this season.

 

Compared to this time last season

have we actually improved our league position?
Has anyone done a comparison on our record?

 

RE: Compared to this time last season

after 39 games last season we were 20th with 41 points and -24 goal difference

 

Am I going crazy or did Macken and Oddjob start today?

I must be going crazy cos thats a few times that people have said that Davey keeps playing Nardiello, he came on as sub for last part of match. Its Oddjob that keeps getting a start when he dont deserve one. 2 fecking goals he has scored and created about the same. 38ish matches and **** all to show for it, but it done matter cos he scored against Chelsea.
Well wake up and smell the relegation coffee, Odejayi is not good enough, he never even had a shot at goal again today, he is supposed to be a striker!!!! when Nardiello came on all we did was kick it as high and far as we could, if the ball is played into the channelsand into feet then if he is not scoring , fair eniough give the lad some stick, but to praise Oddjob and slate Nards is fecking crazy.

 

I reckon we had 41 points last season (with six games to go)

Well, we finished with a toal of 50 points from 46 games & took 9 points from the final 6 games. I think that means we had 41 points this time last year.

HTH,
Stephen

 

as opposed to...

18th....46 points and -13 goal difference....

what a raging success.....

 

Good

We got the same answer, so hopefully we're both right!

 

RE: Am I going crazy or did Macken and Oddjob start today?

Best post today. I agree with every word.
Nardiello should have started and Oddjob can come on for the last 20 minutes when play is stretched and there's more long ball played. Also the defenders are tired and he's harder to cope with.
He still wouldn't score tho.......

 

RE: Am I going crazy ?.....,yes you are

If you want to play all 90 minutes with 10 men ,Nads is a starter every time

 

Results don't lie mate

The cup run has been fantastic, but in the bread and butter of the league we're in exactly the same position as we were last season. There's been little if any improvement.

 

But what you are missing is that its the fans fault we are not winning.

I dont get the thing about coming on this site and slagging the fans, its not those on here thats the problem its the others that are casual fans that need to be targeted and they should be encouraged to come down to Oakwell not treated like some form of leper. Every wek some come on and complain about how we should get bigger crowds,,then they come on and complain about the fact that 33,000 want to go to mbley, we should have made it a requirement for the hanger ons (!) to have to buy a ticket for toadys match , but no we miss out again.

 

Here ya go

This year </p><table width="100%" cellspacing="1" border="0" class="leagueTable"><tbody><tr class="rowHeader"><td colspan="3" style="text-align: left">Coca-Cola Football League Championship - Updated 22/03/2008</td> <td align="center" colspan="5">HOME</td> <td align="center" colspan="5">AWAY</td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr><tr class="rowHeader"><td>Pos</td> <td style="text-align: left">Name</td><td>P</td><td>W</td><td>D</td><td>L</td><td>F</td><td>A</td><td>W</td><td>D</td><td>L</td><td>F</td><td>A</td><td>GD</td><td>PTS</td></tr><tr class="leagueTablePromotion"> <td class="leagueTablePromotion">1</td> <td class="leagueTablePromotion" style="text-align: left"> Stoke City </td><td>40</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>33</td><td>24</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>29</td><td>26</td><td>+12</td> <td>68</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePromotion"> <td class="leagueTablePromotion">2</td> <td class="leagueTablePromotion" style="text-align: left"> Bristol City </td><td>40</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>28</td><td>19</td><td>7</td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>19</td><td>27</td><td>+1</td> <td>67</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">3</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> Hull City </td><td>40</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>37</td><td>17</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>8</td><td>19</td><td>24</td><td>+15</td> <td>65</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">4</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> Watford </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>24</td><td>22</td><td>10</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>34</td><td>22</td><td>+14</td> <td>65</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">5</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> WBA </td><td>38</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>45</td><td>22</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>8</td><td>29</td><td>26</td><td>+26</td> <td>63</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">6</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> Plymouth </td><td>40</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>4</td><td>31</td><td>18</td><td>8</td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>21</td><td>23</td><td>+11</td> <td>59</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">7</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Ipswich Town </td><td>39</td><td>13</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>40</td><td>12</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><td>11</td><td>18</td><td>37</td><td>+9</td> <td>59</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">8</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Crystal Palace </td><td>40</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>24</td><td>23</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>22</td><td>16</td><td>+7</td> <td>58</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">9</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Wolves </td><td>39</td><td>9</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>26</td><td>23</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>6</td><td>18</td><td>20</td><td>+1</td> <td>58</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">10</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Charlton </td><td>40</td><td>8</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>31</td><td>24</td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>23</td><td>24</td><td>+6</td> <td>57</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">11</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Burnley </td><td>40</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>6</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>28</td><td>29</td><td>-1</td> <td>55</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">12</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Sheffield Utd </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>23</td><td>21</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>7</td><td>19</td><td>20</td><td>+1</td> <td>53</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">13</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Cardiff City </td><td>38</td><td>9</td><td>3</td><td>7</td><td>24</td><td>20</td><td>4</td><td>10</td><td>5</td><td>22</td><td>24</td><td>+2</td> <td>52</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">14</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> QPR </td><td>40</td><td>9</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>29</td><td>23</td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>27</td><td>35</td><td>-2</td> <td>52</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">15</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Preston </td><td>40</td><td>10</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>23</td><td>15</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>12</td><td>17</td><td>29</td><td>-4</td> <td>50</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">16</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Blackpool </td><td>40</td><td>7</td><td>10</td><td>3</td><td>31</td><td>22</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>10</td><td>23</td><td>31</td><td>+1</td> <td>49</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">17</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Norwich City </td><td>40</td><td>8</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>24</td><td>20</td><td>5</td><td>4</td><td>11</td><td>16</td><td>29</td><td>-9</td> <td>49</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableHighLight"> <td class="leagueTableHighLight">18</td> <td class="leagueTableHighLight" style="text-align: left"> Barnsley </td><td>39</td><td>10</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>31</td><td>22</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>12</td><td>11</td><td>33</td><td>-13</td> <td>46</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">19</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Southampton </td><td>40</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>8</td><td>21</td><td>24</td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>28</td><td>42</td><td>-17</td> <td>46</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">20</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Coventry City </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>20</td><td>22</td><td>5</td><td>2</td><td>12</td><td>19</td><td>30</td><td>-13</td> <td>45</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">21</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Leicester City </td><td>40</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>20</td><td>15</td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>18</td><td>23</td><td>0</td> <td>44</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableRelegation"> <td class="leagueTableRelegation">22</td> <td class="leagueTableRelegation" style="text-align: left"> Sheffield Wed </td><td>38</td><td>8</td><td>2</td><td>9</td><td>22</td><td>21</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>9</td><td>18</td><td>24</td><td>-5</td> <td>44</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableRelegation"> <td class="leagueTableRelegation">23</td> <td class="leagueTableRelegation" style="text-align: left"> Scnuthorpe </td><td>40</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>24</td><td>27</td><td>3</td><td>5</td><td>12</td><td>14</td><td>33</td><td>-22</td> <td>38</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableRelegation"> <td class="leagueTableRelegation">24</td> <td class="leagueTableRelegation" style="text-align: left"> Colchester </td><td>40</td><td>3</td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>28</td><td>35</td><td>3</td><td>7</td><td>10</td><td>24</td><td>37</td><td>-20</td> <td>33</td></tr></tbody></table>

</p>

Last Year</p><table width="100%" cellspacing="1" border="0" class="leagueTable"><tbody><tr class="rowHeader"><td colspan="3" style="text-align: left">Coca-Cola Football League Championship - Updated 17/03/2007</td> <td align="center" colspan="5">HOME</td> <td align="center" colspan="5">AWAY</td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr><tr class="rowHeader"><td>Pos</td> <td style="text-align: left">Name</td><td>P</td><td>W</td><td>D</td><td>L</td><td>F</td><td>A</td><td>W</td><td>D</td><td>L</td><td>F</td><td>A</td><td>GD</td><td>PTS</td></tr><tr class="leagueTablePromotion"> <td class="leagueTablePromotion">1</td> <td class="leagueTablePromotion" style="text-align: left"> Derby County </td><td>39</td><td>11</td><td>5</td><td>4</td><td>29</td><td>18</td><td>11</td><td>2</td><td>6</td><td>25</td><td>21</td><td>+15</td> <td>73</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePromotion"> <td class="leagueTablePromotion">2</td> <td class="leagueTablePromotion" style="text-align: left"> Sunderland </td><td>39</td><td>12</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>31</td><td>14</td><td>9</td><td>3</td><td>7</td><td>29</td><td>25</td><td>+21</td> <td>70</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">3</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> Birmingham </td><td>37</td><td>12</td><td>5</td><td>2</td><td>30</td><td>16</td><td>9</td><td>2</td><td>7</td><td>24</td><td>18</td><td>+20</td> <td>70</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">4</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> Preston </td><td>38</td><td>14</td><td>4</td><td>2</td><td>35</td><td>13</td><td>6</td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>21</td><td>28</td><td>+15</td> <td>68</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">5</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> Wolves </td><td>39</td><td>10</td><td>5</td><td>4</td><td>26</td><td>18</td><td>9</td><td>4</td><td>7</td><td>19</td><td>23</td><td>+4</td> <td>66</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTablePlayOff"> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff">6</td> <td class="leagueTablePlayOff" style="text-align: left"> WBA </td><td>38</td><td>13</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>42</td><td>19</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>23</td><td>26</td><td>+20</td> <td>63</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">7</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Cardiff City </td><td>39</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>2</td><td>31</td><td>13</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>23</td><td>29</td><td>+12</td> <td>63</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">8</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Southampton </td><td>39</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>30</td><td>17</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>+13</td> <td>60</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">9</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Stoke City </td><td>39</td><td>9</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>25</td><td>11</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>22</td><td>22</td><td>+14</td> <td>58</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">10</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Colchester </td><td>39</td><td>12</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>38</td><td>15</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>12</td><td>19</td><td>33</td><td>+9</td> <td>56</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">11</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Crystal Palace </td><td>39</td><td>10</td><td>2</td><td>7</td><td>25</td><td>18</td><td>5</td><td>8</td><td>7</td><td>23</td><td>25</td><td>+5</td> <td>55</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">12</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Sheffield Wed </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>31</td><td>33</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>27</td><td>26</td><td>-1</td> <td>53</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">13</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Plymouth </td><td>38</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>29</td><td>25</td><td>5</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>22</td><td>25</td><td>+1</td> <td>52</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">14</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Coventry City </td><td>39</td><td>11</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>30</td><td>19</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>12</td><td>13</td><td>30</td><td>-6</td> <td>52</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">15</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Norwich City </td><td>38</td><td>10</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>27</td><td>21</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>10</td><td>21</td><td>35</td><td>-8</td> <td>50</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">16</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Ipswich Town </td><td>39</td><td>9</td><td>2</td><td>8</td><td>27</td><td>26</td><td>5</td><td>4</td><td>11</td><td>22</td><td>26</td><td>-3</td> <td>48</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">17</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Leicester City </td><td>38</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>6</td><td>22</td><td>22</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>19</td><td>26</td><td>-7</td> <td>46</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">18</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Burnley </td><td>37</td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>22</td><td>19</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>10</td><td>14</td><td>22</td><td>-5</td> <td>41</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">19</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> Hull City </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>2</td><td>10</td><td>26</td><td>27</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>10</td><td>15</td><td>31</td><td>-17</td> <td>41</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableHighLight"> <td class="leagueTableHighLight">20</td> <td class="leagueTableHighLight" style="text-align: left"> Barnsley </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>4</td><td>8</td><td>23</td><td>26</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>14</td><td>22</td><td>43</td><td>-24</td> <td>41</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableMidTable"> <td class="leagueTableMidTable">21</td> <td class="leagueTableMidTable" style="text-align: left"> QPR </td><td>38</td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>24</td><td>24</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>11</td><td>21</td><td>35</td><td>-14</td> <td>40</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableRelegation"> <td class="leagueTableRelegation">22</td> <td class="leagueTableRelegation" style="text-align: left"> Southend </td><td>39</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>27</td><td>29</td><td>3</td><td>6</td><td>10</td><td>13</td><td>30</td><td>-19</td> <td>39</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableRelegation"> <td class="leagueTableRelegation">23</td> <td class="leagueTableRelegation" style="text-align: left"> Luton Town </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>8</td><td>32</td><td>31</td><td>2</td><td>4</td><td>13</td><td>15</td><td>36</td><td>-20</td> <td>36</td> </tr><tr class="leagueTableRelegation"> <td class="leagueTableRelegation">24</td> <td class="leagueTableRelegation" style="text-align: left"> Leeds United </td><td>39</td><td>7</td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>21</td><td>27</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>14</td><td>18</td><td>37</td><td>-25</td> <td>26</td></tr></tbody></table>

</p>

 

RE: Am I going crazy ?.....,yes you are

Have you got Alzheimers? His goals brought us up and kept us up in the last 2 seasons. Since he came back, apart from the first few games, he's been warming the bench again. We know we don't get the best from him there.

 

Agreed nt

 

My opinion for what it's worth.....we have just lost to one of our biggest rivals and we are all hurting. We have to put that into some kind of context and reality...

We have a far better squad of players than last year and next season we will have a better one still. Its all about gradual improvment year on year. Rememebr we have Da Silva and Muller to come back and apart from a goalscorer, we'll have a squad capable of a top 10 finish.

Maybe the cup run has meant we have taken out foot off the gas in the league but I for one would not swap the Liverpool and Chelsea games for 6 or 7 more league points.

The owner, chairman and manager have put our club on a great footing and its up to the people of barnsley to tuen out and support them.

Idiots who say they are not going next seaon cos we lose a derby despite being in the semi finals must be either totally thick or not Barnsley fans to begin with...

 

only five points? Five points is a lot of points at this stage of the season. nt

 

RE: only five points? Five points is a lot of points at this stage of the season. nt

But 2 points away from the drop zone, same as last season

 

RE: only five points? Five points is a lot of points at this stage of the season. nt

**** I hadnt compared the tables. If we only had a decent strike force. Things would have been so much different.

 

Don't agree

We're a lot more competetive than least year.

But we've still got a long way to go.

Davey has made some decent signings but he has also seemingly wasted a lot of money on strikers.