Well let's start by stopping MP's claiming vast expenses for **** all.</p> Then stop the PM's missus enriching herself on the back of her husband's position.</p> Once the people that govern us start to show some restraint and responsibility then maybe everyone else may start to pay their share.</p> As well as these mythical rich businessmen what about the skiving ******* in the black economy not paying any tax or NI ? How much is that 'costing' the treasury. There's loopholes everywhere, not just those used by the 'rich'.</p>
Yes, and while we're at it.......... ....let's boot out all those being paid by government funded departments to play sixth form politics on the internet all day.</p>
Oh don't get me wrong I agree Dirk, there's lots of loopholes used by lots of people and I wouldn't disagree that other areas should be tighetned up, but it doesn't alter the fact that some of those earning vast sums of money (im talking hundreds of thousands of pounds a year) avoid paying more than their fair share of tax, and as usual the rest of us fill the gap. In turn that means we have less money to put into savings and less money to retire on. For the greedy person there is always scarcity, since he never has enough, regardless of how much he has. http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/tax-advice/income-tax/article.html?in_article_id=407357&in_page_id=77
RE: Hardly surprising is it? That you probably get some sad pleasure out of my misfortune doesn't really surprise me given you apparently have nowt better to do than get annoyed over my posts and call me silly names. Now, give us a post about animals you big fluffy
Makes my blood boil No sympathy from me. in fact quite the opposite.</p> Don't see why public sector workers hould be treated any differently to anybody else.</p> Why will most other workers have to work till 65 or even 75 to get probably a poor state pension and likely a dissappointing private one when pampered council workers get to retire at 60 on a decent pension at the publics expense?</p> Furthermore coppers are exempt from the changes! FFS.</p>
RE: Makes my blood boil This is NOT a state pension - and it's NOT at the public expense.</p> They have bought it and paid for it themselves. And to get the full amount some will probably have had to pay in for many years - certainly longer than many people will ever dream of working.</p>
Im with Spartacus on this one One rule for private sector one for public. I've just been told I've to pay an extra 4% to maintain my pension at it's current level. If I didn't I could opt out and into a lesser one. Why should public sector workers be treat any different. Interesting statistic on the news last night - they add up to 20% of the national workforce but 36% of the total pension !!! and approxiamately 70% of the total strike days.
Then who is funding it then? Because if it does come out of the workers salary then what they are seeing is no different to other private sector workers on "final salary" pension schemes.</p> They are all falling appart, being ammended, employees having to make greater contributions etc etc.</p> Are you saying that the employer makes no significant contribution to these schemes. I would be interested to know the councils contribution level (assuming there is one).</p>
RE: Makes my blood boil I don't see many people moaning about the fact that the government stole the miners' pension fund.</p> And they actually put a shift in.</p>
"Not at Public expense" well, not entirely Apparantly the average employers i.e. BMBC contribution which comes from public funding is between 13 to 15%.</p> My employer pays 3%</p> Never mind, I enjoy paying for the feckers to have a better pensiion than I, retire while they are still in reasonable health and enjoy it for at least 5 to 10 years longer.</p> FFS.</p> http://society.guardian.co.uk/localgovfinance/story/0,1205,765007,00.html </p>
And tha can only join if thi fatha's a member. Any of you council wallers care to elaborate as to the level of BMBC's contribution to your pension scheme?
well.. thanks for tarring us all with the same brush..</p> I'm sure the girl in my office who had a nervous breakdown last year through the pressure of work would love to talk to you about what she's been through, and still is going through... her hospitalisation and regular drug therapy and counselling that she has to attend.. </p> great attitude from one of the blokes who, at times, is probably one of the most prolific 'at work' posters.... keep up the good work</p>