No deal won’t be allowed to happen

If he didn’t bum himself then it’s not really applicable.

 

Really? No qualification ref Brexit.
Which bit of since the vote did you not understand?
Given the fact the thread was about Brexit it was fair to assume that most people would get it is related to Brexit, I did give the posters on here the credit to be intelligent enough to do so.
If that’s not the case I apologise for making that assumption.

As previous I have made a statement that I believe to be true if you disagree feel free to post a prediction that was accurately correct

 

I am in exactly the same boat as you Vesp.

 

The vote is not and has never been the problem.. The problem is two things,
One.. the losing side not excepting the legal vote...
Two.. MPs in probrexit area voting against the people who elected them..
So any new vote will not change a thing because democracy no longer works in the UK...
Just how the anti democratic EU like it..

 

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gain not disagreeing I neither want to experience a no deal scenario.
Personally I think there’s lots of gamesmanship and think(hope) concessions will be made on both sides.

 

Life would be a lot easier if people admitted this instead of trying to be experts

 

I’ve already quoted where you said he’s not predicted it right, we can accept that as an attack.

And as you’re following the Brexiteers then we have no point of disagreement.

But once more I’m in a discussion with a Brexiteer who rather than addressing the issues is arguing semantics.

So the question remains...

If leading Brexiteers are predicting decades before the economy recovers and so is Mark Carney; why are you suggesting he’s wrong (with no evidence to support that yet) whilst just accepting it from leading Brexiteers?
And what do you think you’re gaining that makes ruining my kids financial adulthood worthwhile?

I’ve been asking this for months; maybe you can be the honest one that gives me a fact based answer.

 

1. the vote was never to leave without a deal so they are stopping democracy being hijacked .

2. MPs vote on what they think is best for the country not always what their constituents want .
They’ll answer at the next democratic election to their constituents .
Democracy is alive and kicking.

 

Ha ha unfortunately for you, I voted to remain

 

I’m responding to your post; you clearly have misunderstood.
Try reading it again without the red mist.

 

All I’ve done is stated what I believe to be a fact, that his predictions since the vote have not been accurately correct.
I have followed that up with a response to you and another poster to clarify that if even he can’t get it right how can anyone else. That’s not an attack it’s a fact of the reality of Brexit.
I have answered your question about others, I don’t follow them so can’t comment either way.

 

Again.
You didn’t post that at all... what you posted was...

Not ‘every prediction about Brexit’ but every prediction. And that’s where I came in.

You’ve since misinterpreted everything I’ve posted because you never understood that simple difference.

 

I can only fight my own corner and say it as I see it, you're not accepting the fact that I ( and I believe the vast majority of the people in this country...but obviously that is opinion) would have accepted the result as it stood. We were told by everyone this was a one off and the result would stand.
I would ask anyone who wishes to look at the archived posts for the evening of the referendum when it looked as though Remain had won, I feel sure that myself and at least one other Leaver accepted defeat with good grace.
That was my position then, it still is today.

 

Can not weigh this up, top brexit supporters used to say Turkey was going to join the E.U. as an incentive to vote Leave,(one of many barefaced lies) but this government of right-wing brexiteers are trying to bring in a Turkey Military pension organisation to run our steelworks. Turkey Military you could not make it up.

 

'Accepting'

Oh, and it wasn't a "legal" vote in that the result was never legally binding. If it had been, the result would have since been declared null & void due to the illegal activities of the vote leave campaign.

 

You may have a point but actually just a little different from your own thinking. The made up pretend enemy that the EU has become, largely in part from support here at home of the right wing, racists, flag waving blue skies over the white cliffs brigade and those with significant investment portfolios who will be financially better off may have been replaced by the next cab off the rank to get upset about.i don’t know if the great leader Farage calling off the hounds would have happened but the average man in the street who cast his vote on his own best intentions may have ceded.

 

Certainly Leo Varadkar hasn't, he cancelled Enda Kenny's preparations and announced on several occasions that there would never be a hard border, putting all his chips on the backstop in the agreement...now that is in doubt, it leaves him with his nightmare situation that the EU may at some stage force him to put border posts up.

 

I think you'll find that no one before Dominic Grieve pointed it out, had even addressed that issue..taking this forum as a barometer, I very much doubt that anyone posted on here prior to the vote that it was advisory.

 

Well I can't talk for others, but I was very well aware that it was advisory. I was pretty shocked when such a marginal split was then turned into a fait accompli that we had to leave. increasingly so as history has been rewritten that no deal was always going to be what leave meant, and even more so when the referendum was judged to be illegal, but we couldn't do anything as it was only advisory.

I mean, you'd have to look at who orchestrated all that and declare them incompetent, if not clinically insane.

 

Whilst I accept your chain of thought, there is no precedence for the people of this country to not accept the democratic vote.
No democratic vote or referendum has ever been overturned, I cannot see why this should be different.