North or South?

Just look at this pal,
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/29911686?more_details_carousel=1_carousel=1
Up for sale at £1,450,000 Last sale £460,000 on 29th Sep 2003.
So the person selling it is going to make a million in profit,

Now take a look at this
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/29467280?search_identifier=98220329fe80b72b903ce074c8bf372c
20/30 minutes drive from a mainline train station so you could be back in London within 2 hours (it can take that to go 10 jct on the M25),
you can bring up your kids in area where no child as ever been knifed to death just because he got of the bus at the wrong stop or looked at some-one in the eye.

to top it all off you would be living in a safer place in a nicer house and have half a million in the bank with no mortgage, why would you stay in that hell hole ?

 

Your best ever post

 

like east london but it is a sh.t hole but west london people up there own arse .go all over europe the only place worse than london is paris .hate the place ....germany .belguim and holland i like .but there,s only one peoples republic of south yorkshire

 

As someone born in Hornchurch but moved North at a young age.....

...I have my own take on this.

Born 1954 and spent the 1st 7 years in the Hornchurch Dagenham Romford area long before it became 'Chav Central' and the epitome of TOWIE.
As my dad was a civil servant (Valuation Clerk) promotion meant moving and I spent the next 6 years (happy ones) in Blackpool. When he applied for a better job we then moved to Barnsley.

In the late sixties the North suffered in respect of fashion, cinema, ethnic food availability (both restaurants and shops) in that the former was always weeks or months late in getting the latest films clothes hairstyles (important to my teenage sister). The venues (apart from City Hall in Sheffield) were hard to come by for the big bands and pop stars of the day as well. Everything was (as it still is to an extent) Londoncentric).

The danger is confusing 'The South' with the South East and particularly those areas Southend, Suffolk, Brighton, South Coast and the Home Counties that come under the London influence.

I admit when visiting London I do get a sense of nostalgia in spite of it being nothing like it was when I was a small boy .Simple things like the bus stops, Tube stations (which were exciting as a small boy) place names from my childhood all make me feel comfortable and 'at home' when I visit.

However, I obviously have personal connection with the place and I wouldn't feel the same if I did not. Moreover most of the 'advantages' of living near London have gone as there are many fine venues for concerts etc. in the North and Ethnic food is readily available and films, clothes, fashion is in sync with the South thanks to TV and the internet.

So, having married a Barnsley lass and even disregarding the fact that the cost of living is much lower in the North I have no hesitation in saying that the quality of life North is far higher- with the big caveat - for any one with a job. People - particularly those over 30 - are far friendlier and generally more caring and have time for other people than those in the London/SE area.

Unfortunately for the foreseeable future the South will always get the Lions share of whatever resources are available as the Governments (whatever colour) see London and the SE as the 'powerhouse' of the economy (banking and invisible earnings) and concentrate everything there. That will only change if and when the infrastructure collapses under the pressure of too many people concentrated in one area.

Happy new Year everyone (or those of you that made it this far into my epistle)

 

Re: As someone born in Hornchurch but moved North at a young age.....

My Dad worked for 46 years in the same job in Barnsley, also in the civil service. I have spent my life moving about.
The reason why people move to the South East is for work, of course. I feel a bit more confident here that if I do lose my job, I have a bit more of a chance of getting another one in a shorter time-frame.

 

That's what I hate most about where I live in the UK these days and I do hate it. Apologies to board members from around here but for me Northamptonshire sucks. It's got all the snobbishness of London but none of the benefits. People look down their noses at me all the time and if I say Good Morning to someone I'm as likely to get a sniff and a look away as a response. Give me the North any day.

 

I live in London, and whenever I visit up North it feels like I'm travelling in a time machine back to the 1980s. I didn't realise Last of the Summer Wine was supposed to be a documentary.

 

Talk about time traveling, their still knocking about in tribes in that **** hole you live in, but one thing thats changed is they've swapped their hand made spears for flick knifes

 

I do agree re: Suffolk. There are some lovely parts of the country in general but for some reason I just have no time for London.

 

You my friend are verging on being a racist !! tread careful mate.

 

He obviously is mark
Great advert for the north
The irony.

 

North - every time.

I lived in Brum for 6 years and Reading for 16 years. Southerners are just rude, blinkered and generally unfriendly. I'm glad I moved back - to get my sanity back as I was fast losing faith in the human race - it was driving me potty.

 

After 22 years !
You must have enjoyed it

 

Bring your kids up in the north, to avoid the tribes carrying knifes,

 

Ok ok
You do not have to reinforce your foolishness and narrow minded ways
No knife crime in the 'north' then ?

 

How south are we talking? It doesn't sound like London where I live!!

 

very little in comparison to the south

 

More racism up north , as you have proved
Education ?
School league tables n v s not very good

 

Which would you choose for your kids,
Decent exam results with very little chance of being murdered at or on the way to or from school
or really good results and living in danger of being killed
i know what i'd choose

 

I've lived in London for over 20 years and trust me, the people who generalise and slag off the north are invariably exactly the same kind of people who do the same about London and the south. If they sat down and talked, many would find they actually have a lot in common. England and indeed the UK is a very complex and interesting geographical and social landscape. To view it as a polarised and divided north v south is just ignorance and localised xenophobia.