Not sure how the "science" reconciles the logic....

I did see an update from the RNLI saying that the Home Office had confirmed that they wouldn't be punished for helping anyone. I'm not sure whether that extends to all captains of vessels who help those in trouble - with a potential life sentence we might end up with people being left to drown...

 

I truly believe Patel is more vile than Thatcher.

 

Under the Patel rules the Kindertransport during the second World War would be illegal. She and he spokespeople have been asked to clarify this, they've not refused to state this is the case.
I've got friends who work in asylum casework who undertake the at many times gruesome and emotionally draining process of conducting asylum interviews. They're raging at these new proposed rules. I've done around 100-150 of these interviews in many settings. To those who try and make out they're all men here for a job, really don't understand the realities some of our fellow human beings face.
I've in the past been provided with evidence of state sanctioned genocide using depleted uranium shells. I'll leave it there, don't want to breach any laws.
Patel wants to make the whole asylum interview system a two minute event. These fellow humans deserve a right to a fair hearing.

 

The Home Office tweeted that it ‘doesn’t apply to organisations such as HM Coastguard and RNLI helping those in distress at sea’. The wording of the law doesn’t say that though and stating organisations implies that individuals would still fall foul of the law. I’m not sure if the ‘in distress at sea’ part means that only organisations that do that are ok. There’s no mention of other charities (or individuals) who help refugees in other ways.

 

The amended wording could potentially cover any individual heroically helping someone drowning, or a human rights lawyer (and I’m fairly sure the lawyers are in Patels sights)

I hope there’s enough backbone in some Tory backbenchers to stop this, as it clearly breaches international law.

 

The only hope and I hate to say it, is probably the unelected house.

 

This , and one or two other replies is exactly why I have pretty much stopped posting on political threads on the BB. Why the need to make personal comments and based on false assumptions? Someone even dragged the old chestnut of Brexit up FFS. That poster's intentional childish mispelling 'joke' is well past it's use by date by the way)

My OP was an observation and not a moan and it does not personally "affect me" in as much as I have no intention, however much I would like to see family, of travelling to the UK to see until the situation has drastically changed. Moreover, this myth seems to have grown from the political bias shown by some on here, blinkered by ideology, that I am a staunch supporter of the Conservatives. Just because I don't constantly whinge gripe and moan and make childish comments against them on here does not mean I blindly support them (or any other political party for that matter.
The OP was more about the emphasis on publicising new cases where IMHO hospitalisations deaths (including age and whether pre-existing medical conditions existed as a contributory factor) are perhaps more important information which are omitted from the headlines. One poster I note has observed that hospitals are under pressure from Covid, something I was unaware of , but, then again, I was led to believe by numerous sources that this was largely due to GPs limiting face to face consultations, forcing people , worried parents of small children for example, to swamp A&E units. Whilst the rise in cases seems to be exponential, the deaths thru' Covid are not tracking that increase. Italian GPs have worked as normal and most if not all the Covid hospitals are closing one by one and hospitals and medical centres report very few ICU beds being occupied with Covid cases.
Like I said there is no 100% correct answer, but, again IMHO, statistics relating to deaths, long and short term patients with serious symptoms , should be the 'driver' for strategy rather than rising case numbers given the numbers of vaccinated, naturally immune people have had Covid now probably outnumber those susceptible to catching the virus in a serious form (the so called 'herd immunity') and making the virus less widespread and so reducing the odds on mutations flourishing. The flaw in that argument of course is many countries are barely coping with immunisations.

 

Oh dear!! This is (was) a thread about a Pandemic. What has Brexit got to do with it? Try to comes up with some intelligent reasoned resp0nses instead of moronic personal jibes if, indeed ,you are actually capable of doing so.

 

It's all linked.
tory government treats EU citizens as inferior.
Why is this?
Because the Tory Government is run by xenophobic bigots
How did we come to be run by xenophobic bigots?
Because they promised to get Brexit done and so many other xenophobic bigots voted for them because of it.


Everything that is happening under the blonde racist's governance is a direct result of Brexit and in my opinion anyone who voted for leaving the EU needs to shut the hell up, take a long hard look at themselves and realise that they created the situation.

 

hmmmm

 

Was this meant to be ironic?

 

Of course it's a result of Brexit.

As a result of that leave vote we became more isolationist. It was obvious that EU citizens/residents would no longer be treated the same as those from/in the UK.
That's exactly what was voted for.

 

Switch it off for 5 mins and let rip.
In fact switch it off right up until kick off and we can all join in.

 

There is a huge increase in infections, now being accepted by Sajid Javid as looking like being over 100,000 a DAY in a few weeks.
99% of new infections are of the Indian variant
Clown Johnson left the doors open to 40,000 travellers to and from India, for weeks, even as the variant was decimating the Indian population.
He did this because he wanted to make Brexit appear to be a success by doing a trade deal with India.
That's what Brexit has to do with the pandemic Tekkytyke. The Chief clown's obsession with covering up the disaster which is Brexit, has condemned a lot of innocent people to paying the price.
He has said that the 19th July "Freedom Day" will still go ahead.
I hope for the best but fear the worst