Nurses in need of support

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  1. Gue

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    RE: Nurse nurse... I need a bedpan at 9.01pm

    Yep, I think I probably would. But as I say, not enough nurses would go for it.
     
  2. Gue

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    RE: Sorry Helen but.........

    You're not allowed to agree with me:pff
     
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    Were all special cases !

    but they aren't now?
     
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    What is needed is a radical overall (a bright orange overall with pink stripes might be quite radical) in how we fund the health service.
    In France they have excellent public services but they have high taxes to pay for them, in the US much lower taxes but fund a health system from private companies and medical insurance. The problem in this country is that we want US low taxes with a French health system - it doesn't work like that, you can't have low taxes and yet still have a top quality public funded system.

    I believe that Canada have something between the French model and the US one....we have to seriously start to look at medical insurance and taxing companies to divert part of their profits into the health service, after all if you have a better health service that can treat people quicker then less time will be lost to business due to staff illness which will benefit the business!
     
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    Being paid in washers

    Depends if they are Beko ones at £150 or those top notch Smeg ones at over a grand - not sure what they'd do with loads of washers though, probably open up an electrical store. Maybe it could be expanded so they could be paid in a variety of electrical products.
    Maybe they get a kettle for small jobs like handing out medication, rising up to a top of the range high definition TV for the more difficult operations.
     
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    "We are singing from the same hymn sheet, but perhaps with slightly different lyrics."

    So you are on hymn number 473 whilst Windy is on hymn 474!
     
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    RE: Nurse nurse... I need a bedpan at 9.01pm

    Tell the auxiliary to do it!
     
  8. Gue

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    Nowt wrong wi BEKO.

    Mother in Law has one. She could'nt be persuaded to the SMEG one.
     
  9. Gue

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    RE: "We are singing from the same hymn sheet, but perhaps with slightly different lyrics."

    Unless, as is likely, page one was on the right.

    Get in!
     
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    RE: "We are singing from the same hymn sheet, but perhaps with slightly different lyrics."

    You could have 2 hymns on the same page! Touche!
     
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    Knackers.

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  12. Gue

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    Had a Smeg dishwasher, lasted 14 months, just after the warranty expired!

    pile of crap, don't touch them with a barge-pole.
     
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    See THAT would have sorted the Miners strike out!

    Shame maggie was post menopausal
     
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    Thanks for your support Helen

    but as I say above most darent cos they may well get assaulted
     
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    We already pay health insurance

    tis called National Insurance
     
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    RE: We already pay health insurance

    But it doesn't work - it doesn't fund the service sufficiently, hence the requirement for a complete overall.

    we have 2 major stumbling blocks in this country regarding the NHS.

    1. Most people want the top class services but when it boils down to it they also want low taxation so aren't prepared to pay for it.
    2. The NHS has become Britain's "Holy Cow" of politics - you aren't allowed to suggest altering the way it's set up or funded in any way.

    For starter, there should be a tax on company profits that directly goes towards funding the health service. But that's just one means of providing funding.

    The population of the country is ageing, it's like the pensions system, more people are taking out of it whilst the number of people paying into it reduces. As medical technology advances and new cures and treatments are found for things that previously we couldn't cure or treat, then that has to be paid for - e.g. the recent cases of people taking health trusts to court because they want the latest treatment at £20k a go. I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't treat all these cases, but we have to realise that they need to be funded, there isn't an infinite amount of money and it isn't a free health service, it's free "at the point of delivery", it all has to be paid for and we need a complete shakeup of how that is done. If we don't want to change it then we will have to look at limiting treatments and operations for the terminally ill.
     
  17. Gue

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    Oy, healthy boy. Mind your language.

    If we are going to get upity my recommendation is that we stop all treatment of children. I mean, I've paid NI since I started work, so I deserve every penny I get out of it in treatment. But them kids! What have they paid - nowt! Or make their parents pay. Oh yeh they do that already through their NI contributions. It's a toughy this one and no mistake. I know - bloomin illegal immigrants. It's all their fault. Make em pay. Or French farmers. Or footbal agents. Or Scotsmen.
     
  18. Gue

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    Ni goes straight into the govt coffers, same as income tax

    Not used just for the NHS as it was originally designed. It's now just an extra income tax.
     
  19. Gue

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    Not strictly accurate. NI was introduced in 1911

    more than 30 years before the NHS was launched. It's original purpose was to pay for what are today referred to as Social Security benefits. And that is still one of it's primary uses. But, as you suggest, increasingly the 'pots' are becoming obscurred, so that Peter robs Paul when he is a bit short. So NI ends up paying for education, defence and whatever else the Govt of the days decides is more important than the original intent. Which is why, when Gordie promised not to increase taxes before the last election, he was able to keep to that promise by a big increase to NI instead.
     
  20. Gue

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    RE: Oy, healthy boy. Mind your language.

    With a moniker like mine, would I be in the firing line here too?

    Actually though, you do have a point with regard to Football Agents

    and the French .....
     

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