O/T Caroline Lucas .........

Potentially. Do I think the average man on the street is capable of making an informed decision that impacts the long term future of our country? Not at all. You just have to watch the interview of the bloke in Barnsley saying he voted leave to "send all the muslims back" to realise that.

 

Yes, I only picked A R as an extreme example. In fact there are plenty of others in the current Government who show far less common sense than her, and it was more about her Educational background (or lack of) and the need for a broad range of knowledge in World affairs when in Government.
Which Scandinavian Country is that only appoints ministers to roles with a background in what they are being given responsibility for? They then tend not to have cabinet reshuffles with the 'new broom' mentality of undoing the previous incumbents work good and bad. Same applies to incoming and outgoing Governments in the 2 party system. Whichever flavour , they spend years in opposition, criticising every policy the Government introduces so when they get into power the feel duty bound to reverse course, regardless of whether or not some of those existing policies were actually working.

 

I mean obviously, the background civil service structure are generally there to do the doing and advise accordingly. The secretary is just a mouthpiece who doesn't really know a great deal and is much more about populism and comms and tokenism than anything operational. But I agree, I think it would very much assist if while these hopefuls were studying politics, they actually embarked on a specialism, or a couple, and got their hands dirty to give them more chance of delivering a successful brief.. if they ever got the chance.

 

I think you have a naive view of the way government works

Whilst ministers do push agendas and manage to inflict serious damage, if you look at the pace of change across government you’ll see it’s designed to add massive checks and balances to mitigate the danger of one rogue minister.

For instance, the Tories have managed quite a lot of damage to the education system, but it’s not done overnight by the minister, it’s done over years by feeding the press misinformation in order to shift public opinion leading to widespread organisational change, which will take similar effort and time to undo.

 

I can quote you MP's who fail the same test...in fact Caroline Lucas demonstrated it with aplomb.

 

she wants to send muslims back??? ;-)

 

C'mon Danny you're bright enough to know what I meant in the context of the thread.

 

Oh come on Sad, you're bright enough to see a playful smiley face and know the comment was completely tongue in cheek ;-) <-------- smilius facius

 

Sorry Danny....smiley faces don't show up on my tablet!!!....I always wondered what the semi colon, minus sign and bracket were all about.

 

And.... *sniff sniff*….. I think that's the nicest thing *blows nose while hiding tears*… that anyone has ever said to me on here *blinks a lot*.... I think i'm having a moment. *sob sob*

 

Typing dyslexia

 

Alternatively, she might be exactly the kind of person that's needed! Our education system isn't fit for purpose, but what is a privately educated rich person going to know about that, when it works perfectly adequately for them and their entire social circle? Somebody who didn't get on with the system, for whatever reason, would presumably have more ideas about how it needs to change so as to stop that exact thing happening to other kids.

The system which we have is also *theoretically* designed to counter the issue of unqualified people dictating bad policy to those with more experience. Parties and cabinet members decide the general thrust of policy, but the actual enactment of them is left to the civil service, which theoretically (again!) does hire based on skills and experience so should be perfectly capable.

 

New club badge? lol

 

Badgie McBadgeface?

 

If Lucas believes this to be the answer she is a hypocrite.

Those claims the PM has no mandate to leave with no deal are incorrect (Lucas being one of these).. Regardless of any argument about people claiming no deal was on the ballot paper which it wasn't, in fact the only thing was leave or remain with no options to how we do that. MP's with knowledge of this passed the law of the land which has always clearly stated the legal default if we do not agree a deal is to leave with no deal. It's not a new option, it has been there since parliament voted to uphold it. So yes he does have a legal mandate to leave with no deal.

Now in the case of Lucas, she has zero mandate to put together a unity government of her personal selection with the intention of revoking article 50.

As for the proposition of it being all female because females are less tribal, again that is fundamentally wrong.. Any attempt to cobble together such a coup should include a cross section of people. Not all female, not all male, end of story.

 

On 13th March, by 321 votes to 278, Parliament vote against no deal, a margin of 43.

 

At least over the last decade the education system in the UK has been run by politicians aiming to score points. It is significantly behind that in Estonia, Finland, Singapore and a host of other countries. This either leads us to one of two options:

1). Our children are less intelligent than those in the other countries.
2). Our educational system is worse than those in other countries.

Should send a bunch of our best teachers to learn how they teach in these places and then follow their recommendations - but that might mean someone doesn't get their kick-back.

 

And that was put into law when? It was just an indicative vote where so many options were on the table the leave option was massively split. If it had been leave vs revoke, leave would have won comfortably based on all those MP's saying they would respect the ref of 2016.

 

Some instinct suggests the UK looking at best practices from European states is a smidge unlikely given the current climate and current political class.