O/T Shamima Begum

She was 15 for God's sake. You should maybe ask yourself and think, why she was so desperate to leave here .

 

Put all the terrorists together in one place. Yeah what could go wrong?

 

I'm more interested in why shes so desperate to return to a country she clearly hates. Maybe when shes returned been tried and been released half way through the sentence then gone round her local supermarket butchering innocent shoppers you'll be able to defend her human rights again, me I'd rather not give her the opportunity

 

And if a judge agrees with you, he's able to imprison her for life without the possibility of parole, I believe.

 

In Britain, we have had examples of Muslim grooming gangs convincing vulnerable, mostly white, girls from the age of 13 that they don’t mind having sex with middle aged men. Bribed with a bit of money and weed sometimes. Also convinced to commit crimes for them, be that theft, drugs sales or even just the underage sex.

We also have an example of a similar aged girl; Bangladeshi. She was convinced, by a muslim grooming gang, to engage in underage marriage and sex, ‘bribed’ by the indoctrination of religion, that she will be punished by Allah for deviation, if she didn’t go along with the killing of non-believers of their version of their faith.

She was a vulnerable 13/14 year old when the serious grooming is meant to have started; 15 when she travelled out there.

But because she knows murder is wrong, that’s different?

Did the kids in Rochdale and Rotherham think it’s right to smoke weed, take pills and shag fat old men? Or were they coerced into those behaviours by a group of horrible ********?

It’s almost as though there’s a different agenda.

If Shamima Begum (a girl born and brought up in Britain) was instead called Lucy Smith, white girl from Barnsley, dad runs a butchers in tarn; but had similarly been groomed into supporting Isis over the space of months or years online, converting to the Islamic religion and travelling to Syria, marrying a terrorist, losing three kids in squalor - and at the age of 18 or whatever she was when the news first broke, wanted to come home to her parents saying she’d made a big mistake; how many would be frothing at the mouth wanting her strung up or banished to an island in the South Pacific? Remove her citizenship and send her to Turkey cos her mam had a lasses holiday in Bodrum in the nineties?

 

I agree. What about when she comes out of prison, discovers time travel, goes back in time and kills Churchill? What will you say about her human rights then eh you loony liberals?

 

Maybe just maybe she's a different person now than when she was 15.
I don't think she'll be nipping to Asda anytime soon so I think we're pretty safe.

 

Correct she's a Morrison's gal, everyday all day.

 

Yeah, similarly the 15 year old kid that got done for robbing chocolate from Herons near me last week should have his hands cut off to stop him robbing when he gets out of prison in forty years.

I mean he’s bound to be a robber for life - a lass who’s actually not butchered or killed anyone, after serving a long sentence and having who knows how much psych assessment and re-education, is bound to take her machete round morrisons. Goes without saying.

All people accused of a crime definitely did all of it, they weren’t coerced by anyone, and definitely will do it again - so dont give anyone a chance to reintegrate into society. Ever.

 

The queues are too long at Morrison's. I'm thinking Lidl just to test the water( and butchery section)

 

Lol, how can you compare Muslim grooming gangs to ISIS? Completely different. And it’s nowt to do with if she was white, black, brown. It’s nowt to do with it her name was Lucy smith or whatever before the’your racist’ remarks come out. People know at the age of 13 that murder/terrorism is wrong. She knew exactly what she she doing when she boarded that plane. Should be F.ucking hung.

 

Maybe the Yorkshire Ripper is different to 30yrs ago??

 

Without doubt. Also, he was an adult when he committed his crimes not a 15 year old child.

 

How very ISIS of you

 

Checkmate.

 

She and people of the same beliefs as her did approve of kids who had stolen things having their hands chopped off and stood in Syria and Iraq and cheered while watching it happen so to be quite honest I'd rather she stayed where she wanted to be which wasn't here. I'm of to watch the match now I've spent enough time discussing this matter and I'm now about to torture myself for a couple of hours as punishment for my terrible opinion that a terrorist sympathiser is kept out of the country.

 

How can we compare a group of Muslims who commit evil crimes to another group of Muslims who commit other evil crimes?

People are convinced to do things against their best interests all the time - Look at the number of poor people voting Tory in the last election. You don't just say to someone "Kill that person" and expect them to do it. You start off small, push it a little at a time and sooner or later. The girls in Rochdale or Rotherham knew drugs, shoplifting and sleeping with creepy old men were wrong, but they were persuaded to do it one step at a time. Some people are weak willed, but even the strongest willed person can be coerced to do something if they believe a threat is real or it is in their best interests. How far would you go if someone threatened to kill your wife, children or parents if you didn't do something?

The people who pushed her to leave for ISIS for the truly evil ones here and should be found and punished for their actions.

 

The age of criminal responsibility in this country is ten so in the eyes of the law she was old enough to know what she was doing.

 

Let's scoop her eyes out then and hang her by her head scarf in public view. Like an earlier poster said, it makes us no better than ISIS.

 

Funny all I said is I want her kept out not harmed