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They are giving 2 pounds a season ticket then ,very generous that ,well 1 pound a season ticket unless we hit the magical 10 k,wonder who is off down to cut the grass and paint the fences,the players or is Whitey doing it all

 

Exactly my thoughts ! These owners must think we are the thickest people on the planet !

 

I probably didn't go far enough actually.These feckers are about as sincere as Boris and Rishi saying... We're all in this together..
Giving money to local schools and clubs is fine. But based on ST sales..? Emotional blackmail mate.. simple as. The ST product should sell itself, but obviously doesn't.
What I find tiresome is the clubs inept management, from the very top down with there soul and only focus being, get as many penny's in as we can... So them, as owners dont after carry any responsibility towards the running of the club. So their free ride doesn't get interrupted.
Bottom line is..don't ever forget it's their club not ours. See the camouflage and smoke screen that are being laid on at present.
Bringing back ..the old boys.. just makes it worse for me, not better. It just reminds me of when the club was ours and how far we've fallen.

 

If it was organised by the owners I don't believe it. They'll promise it, then in another 9 months it'll come up at a supporters trust Q&A:

Supporter: I seem to remember you pledged money towards grassroots football last summer. How did that go?

Khaled: I'm sorry, wha... Ohh yes! Yes, we... thingy. Erm, went down the proper... avenues. The Club received postive sales on season membership.

Supporter: we sold 8,000 didn't we? That's £8,000.

Conmanway: the club will be chasing this up the courts, yes.

Supporter: the courts..?

Chien: Yes, we're spreading the £8,000 we raised between the 16 different clubs we own around Europe.

Supporter: and how much will BFC see?

Khaled: Who..?

 

I won't be averse to helping out. The best part of the job I have is the ability to do good/nice stuff.

As for local clubs, there isn't another Prem/FL club who promotes its local non-league scene like we've done over the last few years. We've been to Frickley, Armthorpe, Hemsworth, Athersley, Worsborough, Penistone and others a number of times, interviewed personnel there on camera, included them on the website, in programmes, promoted their matches on social media etc. We have great rapport with these clubs, and the media/comms side of our club is very proud of and keen to continue such work.

This 'giving back' scheme is another idea we're proud of. I can see, from this thread, that the initiative has its detractors, but that's the way things are right now. Completely to be expected.

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with helping out local clubs Whitey. It's to be strongly applauded. The optics of tying donations to season ticket sales though was, in my opinion, horrendously bad optics. It just makes a laudable idea seem like a cheap stunt to persuade many wavering season ticket holders to renew.
Anyway what IS heartwarming is that there are still some people within the club who have BFC in their veins. Unfortunately they aren't on the Board.

Just as a further thought on that. Maybe this idea at another time under different owners would have been acceoted without question. These are not normal times though. We're at a point where the trust in and credibility of the owners is at the lowest point I've ever seen in 55 years. Nobody trusts them. For god's sakes you've got level headed, eminently reasonable fans like Biglil refusing to go to games. What sort of low have these people brought us to when fans like that are alienated?

 

I guess there are two ways of looking at this. It's a good initiative resulting from ticket selling or it's a ticket selling gimmick linked to a good initiative.

Either way it's a good initiative and so it gets my support per se and I don't think there are that many detractors from the underlying scheme itself.

As others have said I'm not keen on the link to season ticket sales but nobody's going to get hurt as a result*. I just think that if it's the right thing to do, just do it. Do it anyway, it doesn't need linking to season ticket sales. If we didn't sell one single season ticket, it'd still be the right thing to do and I assume we would still do it.

* - I'm more worried** about the prize draw thing on a number of levels, not least because of the principle of it being more likely to reward those with more money sloshing around and able to renew on day 1/early (rich get richer etc courtesy of a club based in a traditionally socialist community) and here's me thinking we're all equal - at least during the early bird period anyway! That's just the old socialist in me but the biggest issue I have is spending up to c. £18.5k on the draws rather than using (probably) a much lesser sum to lengthen the early bird period allowing your brutally hard-pressed lower earning long-standing supporters to be able to renew - probably gaining the club significantly more income overall. After all, nobody is going to renew with the £75 'penalty for the poor' added after the miniscule c. 20 day early bird period.

** - I guess my worry extends to one that these measures/gimmicks imploring people to renew asap reveal that either the club is desperate for cash and it is more important for it get some cash quickly than potentially pull in more but over a slightly longer timespan and/or it wants to get the income from STs in asap because when the butchery of the few remaining decent elements of the squad begins it knows that it won't sell any more - remember, there is next to nothing in the renewal flyer about 'on the pitch' plans for next season.

It all leaves me a bit numb to be honest and just gives me a sense of the club no longer wanting me. Which is numbingly sad, for whilst I don't reckon much to the current coach or most of the players and definitely don't want these owners or their executives, I still want the club. Gally says the point about the short early bird period was made to the club as part of one of the listening exercises and that's probably quite revealing - it feels like they want to appear to be listening but don't seem to do any hearing.

 

I see your point of view, I appreciate and respect it also. Same goes for the majority of views I read/hear or listen to from our supporters. I spent 15 minutes outside The Den pre-match yesterday listening to Reds fans, who were eager to let me know their issues. After a home game the other week, I'd a handful of fans collar me post-match. Most of it tends to be heated, but semi-respectful. I didn't tolerate it previously, I have to be honest. Above my pay grade, I don't need this, that kind of attitude. But if I care as much as I do, and I want things to improve, then why shouldn't I give up a few moments of my time to let folk get things off their chest? So that's what I've started to do. And to be honest, it means more to hear, see and feel it, in person. I'll be hanging around at the Q&A tomorrow night and I'm happy to listen. To anyone.

I still love what I do, and there's still so much more to do. But when it boils down to it, the vast majority of issues that are raised with me by fans, whether genuine or merely perceived as such, they're not things I hold any influence on. But the majority of the season ticket work is something our department was hugely involved in, and whilst I certainly take the negative comments and criticism on board, I feel like it's a positive campaign that we've launched during what is a very dark period for us.

As for alienated fans which you refer to, again, it's related to something I genuinely can't affect. People have issues, which are posted on here on a daily basis, and couple all that with one of the worst seasons (on the pitch) in living memory, and it's completely understandable. But very sad to read. I hope for brighter times ahead buddy.

 

I didn't expect you to comment mate as your position is difficult so a big thumbs up for a perfectly worded response. These are very difficult times and, as I say, we know there are people working at the club who are fully committed and doing their utmost. Fingers crossed better times are round the corner.

 

FfS talk about whinge. Its £1 per season ticket purchased. I'm pretty sure it will influence folk to buy. Get a grip.
And if you're not buying one anyway. What the **** does it matter. Those that are intending to buy. Will not bat an eyelid over this one.

 

Whitey who actually came up with the vouchers thing last season? Was it the same person who came up with the shirts on seats the year before and the Access zone before that? Is it someone in the marketing department who suggests ideas like that or does it come down from the owners and the marketing department merely have to implement it?

I'm a bit worried that someone who has been a key figure in marketing has been promoted to a director. Surely that can't be on the back of disastrous false advertising year on year.

 

What are the local causes Conway"s McDonald's and KFC tabs.

 

No surprise that you'd be willing to help out @YTBFC ,

 

That person no longer works for the club.

The voucher idea is a solid one though. If done properly.

 

Thankyou. It's actually quite reassuring that the person doesn't work for the club anymore.
Agree too that the voucher idea is a good one but if it's ever done again the offers have to be finalised before being advertised and vouchers have to be ready to go straight away