[Official Site] INTERN OPPORTUNITIES IN MEDIA DEPARTMENT

Really? He’s doing ever so well to disguise it.

But the point remains, we pay vast amounts on players, coaches and executives with zero to little experience of the jobs asked of them.

That we can’t find a few quid for young kids makes it all the more disgusting.

 

This is exactly what happens. I saw it while working for Yorkshire TV. And how it happens is they're given an unpaid internship, like this one. And when a paid position becomes available, it's advertised internally and they get the job. And it's perfectly legal because they didn't have to meet any selection criteria to do the unpaid work while there was no competition for the paid position as it was only advertised internally.

 

Sometimes, for some posts, you should be able to like them more than once.

 

Lifes moved on you employ the best person for the job irrespective of who knows who or colour or gender etc. This person may be someone who you know but can demonstrate they are the best person for the job. Working as an intern shows and demonstrates to the company a desire to work and the opportunity for both parties to see if the person is a good fit for that company.

 

So Tesco should be allowed to have interns then? Unpaid for for a year and then if they like you you get a job? EVERY member of this BBS would be up in arms about that.

 

After thinking about this some more I realised that there must be some rules around internships, right? Otherwise what’s the minimum wage for? So, I looked it up: https://www.gov.uk/employment-rights-for-interns

It seems that an ‘unpaid internship’ is only an internship if one or more of the following apply:

- the intern is a student on a recognised UK further or higher education course with a required placement element and each placement lasts less than a year
- the intern is of school age and is taking part in work experience
- the intern is a volunteer and the internship is at one of the following: charity; voluntary organisation; associated fund raising body or a statutory body
- the intern is shadowing ONLY meaning that they carry out no work of their own and only observe

I don’t see how those things apply to this job advertised by BFC* and I suspect calling it an internship and not paying the worker may be illegal.

I’m sure it is a worthwhile thing they are doing but I don’t see why they don’t partner up with a college or uni and do it aboveboard rather than advertising it as a specific job. I’m sure they’d benefit too from having high quality candidates and support from the course provider.

* I know they said they do often get people who are enrolled on courses but that seems to be a happy coincidence as it isn’t listed anywhere in the requirements on the advert.

 

Or the club could be a trail blazer and actually pay. Just because some employers are worse doesn't justify it, it's not a race to the bottom.

 

It happens in law all the time. There are informal unpaid placements offered to the right people. Also I'm on the panel for graduate recruitment at my firm and on several occasions I've seen candidates who I know were placed at the bottom of the rankings on an assessment day waltz through the door to start work a few months later. It's invariably the case that they're a relative of a partner/client. It absolutely stinks.

 

https://www.efl.com/siteassets/jobs/barnsley---press-officer-jd-16.02.2022.pdf

 

It was still given to the internal candidate though, wasn’t it? Yes, other people got to waste their time applying but the unpaid ‘intern’ got the job.

 

Uh oh. So the job advert isn't strictly legal. Oopsie

 

Of course he did. He was the most experienced in this particular role after having worked for nowt for a year

 

Hang on, so you admit that it's a grey area that gets manipulated but you support it?

 

If the thread starts to run out of steam, or you're just bored over the Jubilee weekend, then another 9 pages from last year's event ...
https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/official-site-media-intern-opportunities.305619/

 

Allowing people to work for you for free is not doing them a favour. Pretending it is fine is dystopian capitalist gaslighting.

 

The flexible bit is overridden by the fact they are actually completing work that someone would otherwise be paid to do. That automatically makes it paid work, unless one of the criteria in my post above applies (which it doesn’t). The advert also says they may be *required* to work unsociable hours, that it’s ‘at least once a week’ for the photographer and that they need to work to deadlines. The job description posted is enough to count as a contract (it doesn’t need to be a formal written one).

 

Can't argue with that. I still think it's a good opportunity though, and unlike the big companies in London it isn't asking candidates to commit to 3 months(!) for free in one of the most expensive cities in the world. It's flexible and works around people's studies or existing employment - I haven't seen any internships offer that before.

 

The post that I replied to suggested the vacancy wasn’t advertised externally. It also suggested that there was no competition for the role. The link there, on the EFL website proves that neither was truly the case.

I’m involved in the process and topic that you are discussing. I yesterday shared my own personal perspective of it, and I’ve returned this morning to read further conversation. I remain as comfortable with it now as I did then, and have been, each year since 2016. Knowing that I, myself and the club as a whole have helped a number of talented individuals foster a long-term career in an industry they all continue to thrive in. To think that those hours of our time that we spent with them, went some way towards helping them grow, that’s something I take real pride in and it pleases me immensely when I see them flourishing, whether that be here (in the case of two individuals) or elsewhere.

Anyway, it’s a bank holiday for which I’ve plans this afternoon. Got to relax and recharge a little ahead of a busy few weeks.

I hope that your afternoon is as enjoyable as the one I have planned!

Take care.

 

That all sounds lovely. Pay them and it’ll be legal too.

Have a nice day.