Once more can any of Davey's fan's show me where we have improved this season?

Yes we could have signed Kazim Richards , but

we would not have had ANY money left to spend on other players.
This season, the board realized that we needed to have a larger transfer buget and gave Davey a hell of a lot more than £250,000 that Ritchie had to spend.
We will never actually KNOW whether Ritchie would have kept us up, he was not given a full season to do so. You can speculate as to what would have happened but cannot say for definite.
Why should Davey be given another go at spending money, he has brought in a **** load of players and hardly improved the league position.

 

So is

getting rid of another manager really the answer?

What do nearly all successful teams in English football have in common?

They don't change their managers every season.

 

Who was the Manager last season when we played Southend in the cup? nt

 

So why should we just say ok he is crap but lets keep anyway? nt

 

RE: Yes we could have signed Kazim Richards , but

You're right, we won't KNOW if Ritchie would have kept us up but I've been a lot more confident in Davey than I was with Ritchie, we looked destined to go down.

and I'll reiterate what I said, Ritchie was given the same amount of money to spend as Davey, he just chose not to spend it. The board got fed up of him sticking with the players that got us promoted who were clearly not good enough.

We haven't improved the league position but it's been a tougher league this season. We now have a team to build on, after their first season together they were never going to storm the league and win us promotion. It shows that bookies know a lot more than us, with them predicting us to go down and most people on here couldn't understand why, well they haven't been far off.

Without Gordon Shephard there will be more money spent next season and believe me Davey has no chance of getting sacked, especially with Patrick Cryne and his input. They're like best mates. So we will be giving him another chance to spend money, but the difference is he knows which areas need improving the most. This season he basically needed a brand new team. I can't see why we shouldn't give him another season (if we stay up). But if we don't improve then, well thats when he should go.

IMHO I think people have expected too much of us this season.

 

RE: Who was the Manager last season when we played Southend in the cup? nt

The difference being he had been in the job 6 weeks at the time of the Southend game. We are looking at whether we have improved as a team comparing this season to last. Not comparing Simon Davey and Andy Ritchie per se. Keep up!

 

Chelsea have had a fair few managers until they hit upon a successful one. seven managers in less than 12 years.

arsenal had about five in roughly eighteen months before finding wenger.

 

Genuine question here then. If Ritchie didn't want to sign any players then why did the official site have numerous reports of players that 'the manager is targetting' followed up by reports of 'Ritchie unsuccessful in signing...' and 'we couldn't match the money for...'?

 

Because Ritchie didn't want to pay the money for these players. He didn't think they were worth it.

They weren't going to post stories saying that though, they were always going to make it look as though the reasons we didnt get the players were out of our hands.

I'm not saying he didn't want to sign any players, what i'm saying is, that when it came to buying them he didn't think they were worth the money and thought instead of spending it he'd try and survive with what we'd got.

 

So Andy Ritchie was given £2Million?

Dont think so, not in a thousand years will anyone ever get me to believe that!

Why did we not sign Foster last season?, Campbell-Ryce? plenty of other players he didnt sign either, even though it was on offical site that e wanted them.

I dont actually beleve it has been a tougher league this season, its been an easier league if anything. There has not been one team that we have played that I have thought, "Wow they are good" , including us.

 

that's a pretty big assumption to make

 

It would be if it was just an assupmtion.

 

Seconded. Or thirded. Or something.

 

I think we have to realise that any progress we make will be slow given that we don't have a super rich sugar daddy or the crowds to throw money at the problem. We have spent in comparison to previous seasons but still not much in comparison to the rest of the division.

Certainly chopping and changing the manager will not help.

The striker issue is a problem. Davey only had so much to spend (in terms of fees and wages) and placed several small bets on prospects that might have come good, none of them really has. He could have placed one larger bet that was more likely to have come off but then that striker might have got injured. In signing Macken he took a different approach one that he has maybe learnt from.

Let's hope we stay up, I think we will and build for next season but the expectation should only be for continued, cautious progress.

 

What do you base your 'fact' on then?

 

**** me

someone with a brain.

well said mate.

 

RE: So Andy Ritchie was given £2Million?

There hasn't been a set transfer fee for either. Cryne gives the money when the managers want it.

But between Ritchie and Shephard, they've been ridiculously tight with spending. To be fair some of it may have been Shephards input. But I know for a FACT we would have had Chopra if it had been up to someone else. Cryne was willing to spend the money to get him but somebody didn't think it would be a good business deal. And as for Foster and Campbell-Ryce, exactly the same reason.

 

The family friends we have at the club (not like workers in the club shop though ). I can't name anybody because of that reason and the fact that they read this board.

 

the reason is not Ritchie tho` nt

 

Come on You started that !

if we were not comparing cup runs , why bother to add it to YOUR post.

You have been found out and now you are changing tack.