Oscars controversy

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  1. SuperTyke

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    The revenant was the true story based on the events that happened to a white man and so was Steve jobs so 2 out of 5 straight away white actors made more sense. Another was the transgender movie which was based around a Danish woman's struggle with being transgender in the 1920s so again a black actor would have been a bit out of place. Have a black actor play an astronaut who was left on another planet and had to fend for himself with NASA deciding that his life wasn't worth the risk of rescuing him and there would have been an uproar which only really leaves one role in the 5 mentioned and as I said I have no idea about that one.

    In my experience there have been plenty of fine black actors but (and this is a generalisation) they tend to be the more mature actormornat least more mature looking. You have your denzel Washington, Samuel l Jackson, Morgan freeman type who between them have 12 nominations names and 3 Oscar wins to their names. Then there is will smith who has been nominated twice in two of his most serious roles.

    The problem is that for whatever reason a lot of black actors tend to be from comedy background or make comedy or action films and these kind of films rarely win awards at the Oscars which is why will smiths two nominations came in his dramas even though they weren't as successful at the box office as his action movies. Bruce Willis is one of the most famous men in the planet. Instantly recognisable even to people who don't watch movies or television. Never had an Oscar nomination. The reason? His films are action movies.

    Like you said you have to look at why they aren't getting the lead roles in certain dramas and I think it is because by and large there are far better actors suited to those roles who happen to be white
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    Would it be a gentleman who I watched making a lot of racialy stereotypical jokes about his fellow black men the other week? Mr Chris rock?
     
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    Is it that good?
     
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    Or maybe not given he is being bullied, oops I mean pressurised into pulling out.

    F**k it, I'm not going either, tart will teach em.
     
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    That's not a very nice thing to call me! No-one has any respect for teachers nowadays!
     
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    Its a good job Adam Driver who played Kylo Ren didn't get nominated or there would have been even more uproar - a white man in a black costume.
     
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    Ooh err missis, or should that be miss
     
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    It's Mrs JamDrop to you!
     
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    Stuff like this really annoys me, I don't even see black or white any more and I'm sure most people are the same, but it always seem to be black people who want to re-create the divide.

    The fact that 12 Years a Slave did so well a few years ago was purely down to the content of it and how it's a still a sensitive issue in America, not because it was a good film. I doubt any other film was given any consideration that year.

    What next, ginger folk protesting because a red-haired actor hasn't won anything for 5 years?
     
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    No.
     
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    Eddie Redmayne won Best Actor for playing Stephen Hawking in The Theory of Everything and he isn't even disabled. How does that work?
     
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    The LGBT people were up in arms because he played a transsexual instead of an actual transsexual playing the part.
     
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    Is that meant to be some sort of masterpiece?

    I go to the pictures loads & I came out of that just thinking it was a decent, 3 out of 5 sort of film but I've seen Piers Morgan on Twitter making out its one of the best movies of the past 12 months.

    In the past week alone I've watched 2 far better films in The Revenant & Creed. The Revenant's incredible.
     
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    Why do white people so regularly feel such need to criticise any minority call of unfairness, usually from quarters they have no understanding or experience of?
     
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    It was decent.

    Not the worst film I watched last year by a long shot.

    I was just throwing it out as a film with black leads.
     
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    This of course is the argument -difficult to understand how so many miss the point
     
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    I'm not sure about that. Looking at the nominations for the big 4 acting awards I can only see 3 or 4 out of 20 parts that could plausibly have been played by a black person, either due to the character being based on a real life white person or due to the context.

    Is there an argument that more films featuring black characters should be made? Possibly, I don't know. But I don't think there's much mileage in the argument that white actors were cast above black actors in the roles that got nominated.
     

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