RE: Sense of perspective Re: >constructive criticism yes, but crying over a past manager is pointless. No, but reminding people that chopping and changing managers does not bring results, does not promote stability and is bad for the long term health of the club, does have a point.
Of course I think about what I am saying - my considered view is that Colchester had about the worst away record in the league and we needed something from the game to aide our chances of survival. Our chances are now much slimmer as I think the manager picked the wrong team, we played very poorly and our next fixture is Southampton away. Hull got a point at Derby. Our performance was very poor, we had the wrong 11 our, we gained zero points. I doubt we will recover. Clear enough?
RE: I'll tell you what worried me ... Dispirited. </p> Of course they are footballers and so are robots who should just get on with their job. Cos that's how life is.....</p>
Will recover from what? we have absolutely no chance of recovering from a 0-3 defeat to Colchester as the match is over, old news, past game look forward to the Southampton match and get over it! But to say we will not recover for the rest of the season and we are relegated is just bloody stupid!!!! We're only 1 point behind 4th from bottom with 14 games to play, so there is every chance we can stay up. Is that Clear enough for you?
One other thing: Ritchie obviously thought our central midfield partnership of Howard & Togwell was pretty strong ... so much so that he refused to guarantee Ritchie Jones a place in the middle of the park, so the loan didn't happen. Davey does not share that opinion - as he's lumped Howard out on the wing & put the McCan't / Dibbley combo in the centre. He's then probably going to bring Jones in today to relegate Togwell even further down the list of subs. I found this on the way out of the ground on Setdi: Invite - for Colchester players. Saturday Feb 10th - 3pm. This invite allows any player to waltz through our midfield ... like a hot knife through butter. We've decided to put a few lower league Joey's in the middle of the park ... so dip your bread. Be there, or be square. RSVP.
Of course we can recover but what is sickening is that we missed a golden opportunity to start moving out of the mire and the reasons why we missed that opportunity - team selection, motivation and defensive mistakes - are the reasons why we will still be in it after 46 games. That is unless something changes in each of those areas and the thing that I and most of the people who are on here are concerned about is that Davey doesn't seem to have the wherewithal to make those changes. Hope to god I'm wrong and we win the next six but as I sit here now, this is my opinion on the evidence to hand.
Of course we can recover but what is sickening is that we missed a golden opportunity to start moving out of the mire and the reasons why we missed that opportunity - team selection, motivation and defensive mistakes - are the reasons why we will still be in it after 46 games. That is unless something changes in each of those areas and the thing that I and most of the people who are on here are concerned about is that Davey doesn't seem to have the wherewithal to make those changes. Hope to god I'm wrong and we win the next six but as I sit here now, this is my opinion on the evidence to hand.
it takes some skill To go from the euphoria and goodwill at the time of Cardiff to boo-ing of the team after 3 minutes on Saturday.</p> Personally I blame the fans.</p>
If Davey picks the right team then Im sure we can recover... If he picks anything like the team Vs Colchester again then League 1 it is next season........ We had a centre midfield that could only pass to a 'White' shirt not command that area!
Fully agree. These pesky fans - they keep turning up, paying their money & following the club all over the country ... then they have the audacity to moan when things are going wrong - the b4stards. I agree that all fans should pay up - then shut up. Having an opinion on how the club is being run is simply not on ... these views should be left to people "within the game". If I'm totally honest - I think with the budget he had ... Andy Ritchie would've probably taken us down (as I said on the 1st day of the season) - but I think we'd have been in the hunt right to the end & put in some great performances that could've built a platform for our future growth. I now think we'll finish bottom & lose the spine of our team. As you say - it takes real skill to **** things up so monumentally.
Budget ? McCann £100k</p> Mattis £75k</p> No.13 fee and wages.</p> No.9 "6 figure sum" ( anything up to £250k if you kisten to reports )</p> Eckersley's wages.</p> Wallwork's wages</p> So the money appears to be there. I'm sorry but I still do not believe that Andy Ritchie point blank refused to sign ANY players at all this season. But I'll stand correcting when I hear Ritchie say that was the case.</p>
my thoughts after game Here's what I sent my exiled son: Still reflecting on Saturday's horror show. A rooky team of manager/coach/chairman/benefactor/scout who obviously think they know what they're doing... it beggars belief really. We've been screaming out for an experienced centre half/defensive shielder all season. Unlucky with Wallwork, but others have been available since. Maybe some experience was needed elsewhere too? What do we get - bairns. 2 lads from ManU now here for 'experience'. 1 lad, Reid from West Ham - ditto. 2 lower league youngsters in the heart of midfield. Young Atkinson thrown in the lion's den in defence. Meanwhile Togwell sits on bench and Howard is shoved on the wing out of harms way. Decent wing/attacker Hayes - not sold, wants to go, in reserves, waste of money and space, but surely ought to be in team or on bench. Latest fall out is with Kay. Seems like many from previous regime are outcasts. Only chink of quality to come from it all was Ferenczi for 20 mins who looked good. Racsji or whatever looked neat but not incisive - Nardi's Hungarian cousin. We still have to give Davey a chance, but some of his selections undermine any optimism. It was a big step backwards on Saturday. The Well is like a morgue. 14 games left, 4 wins, 6 draws, 4 defeats... or 5 wins, 3 draws, 6 defeats gets us to 50. I wonder where they will come from?
my thoughts after game Here's what I sent my exiled son: Still reflecting on Saturday's horror show. A rooky team of manager/coach/chairman/benefactor/scout who obviously think they know what they're doing... it beggars belief really. We've been screaming out for an experienced centre half/defensive shielder all season. Unlucky with Wallwork, but others have been available since. Maybe some experience was needed elsewhere too? What do we get - bairns. 2 lads from ManU now here for 'experience'. 1 lad, Reid from West Ham - ditto. 2 lower league youngsters in the heart of midfield. Young Atkinson thrown in the lion's den in defence. Meanwhile Togwell sits on bench and Howard is shoved on the wing out of harms way. Decent wing/attacker Hayes - not sold, wants to go, in reserves, waste of money and space, but surely ought to be in team or on bench. Latest fall out is with Kay. Seems like many from previous regime are outcasts. Only chink of quality to come from it all was Ferenczi for 20 mins who looked good. Racsji or whatever looked neat but not incisive - Nardi's Hungarian cousin. We still have to give Davey a chance, but some of his selections undermine any optimism. It was a big step backwards on Saturday. The Well is like a morgue. 14 games left, 4 wins, 6 draws, 4 defeats... or 5 wins, 3 draws, 6 defeats gets us to 50. I wonder where they will come from?
Wouldn't argue with that Although I don't think its just lack of experience where Davey is concerned,I get the feeling he's just a **** manager
Ritchie said he would not sign players who he belived wer not up to standard, and who would'nt improve the squad. so obviously he could'nt find any, or if he did maybe we could,nt afford to buy them
Aye. We've spent about £400k allegedly. We got £300k lump sum for Flinders & made £100k from McIndoe. So - I think the "budget" statement to Ritchie was along these lines: Gord: Reyt Anderson - let's get this straight ... we need to stay in the Champions League this year RichTea: I'm sorry? Gord: We need to constipate in this division RichTea: Ah, okay then - so what's the budget for new players? Gord: Well - we've sold Flanders for £300k, a reyt deal, and spent £125k on McIndoe RichTea: So that's £175k in the pot - what else do we have, 'cos I need a couple of strikers, a few midfielders and we're desperate for some central defenders ... I think we need about a million quid Gord: A million what? You're joking? RichTea: Nope - about a million. Gord: There's £175k left over - so you'll have to get £825k for Micky Wroe & Nathan Jarhead RichTea: I'm sorry - you're saying that I have to raise every penny that I get to spend Gord: Aye RichTea: So, let me get this right, my budget to keep us up is zero? Gord: Half past two RichTea: What? Are you saying I have no budget? Gord: No RichTea: Thank God - how much do I have then? Gord: Therteh six pence RichTea: How much? Gord: Therteh six pence - final offer ... you've got until I take 5 penalties to accept RichTea: What are you on about? Gord: Offer withdrawn - now get out of my office RichTea: But Gord - we're at the dentists Gord: I said get out * RichTea skips out of the dentists to the theme tune to the Thorn Birds.
you could be right, mate. i think Davey needs to tke a leaf out of Ritchies book, cos his signings so far, with the exeption of Rajczi and the other one, arent up to standard.
Opinion please D R as you were the one who had Spackman sussed straight away, what do you think to what has happened and wht if anything can be done to rectify it ?(worship)
Then was then, now is now at the start of the season we were offered players on loan that Ritchie didnt want for whatever reason, players that are now playing for Premiership clubs for example, Matt Derbyshire, not deemed by Andy to be any better than what we have. signing players at this stage in the season much much harder than in the summer when not in bottom 3. For christ sakes people, move on, Andys not coming back, but is he the benchmark for every manager from now on, being popular and playing open football but losing? Maybe I'll apply after all, bacon butties and naked press ups all round.