Paddy McCourt.

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  1. JLWBigLil

    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    No he didn't, as he openly admits in his book. Donkeys like Benali & Horne did defensive duties, Matt made the ball do all the work.
    I know my views about Paddy put me in a small minority on here. But I don't care, mate.
     
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    We both agree that McCourt is a player that excites, but others see a player that frustrates, same with all players. some people think that because players come from big clubs they are automatically better than players that come from lesser clubs, I judge on what I see not where they come from only what they do.
    We need a blend of skill and talent, to go with the wokrate of Dawson type players. We cannot have just one or the other but every player should want to be the best they can every game, this season we have had too many players just happy to go through the motions at times. That goes for Dawson as well as Mellis , Paddy and O`Grady.
     
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    I've said my piece.
     
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    Top post from one of the more sensible posters on this forum.
     
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    Nah, mate! Just dopey & old!:D:D
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    With age comes experience and Wisdom.
    I don't always agree with your posts but they are thought provoking and always sensibly composed without being abusive to fellow members.
    And before anyone asks no you haven't given me a brown envelope to Dig You Up. Sorry i mean Big U up!
    Respect
     
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    Thank you for your kind comments, mate. They're very much appreciated.
    However, there have been times when I've been the complete opposite. I've also been old & dopey!:D:D
     
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    Agreed, and how many minutes has paddy had in the last 6 weeks? you can only get to your best with game time week in week out.

    Look at M'Voto looks a different player now he's been playing back to back 90 minutes.

    Fans are fickle, unfortunately Paddy hasnt had a run in the team to get to his best... may i add there has been many others who have played week in week out who offer little at this level of football.
     
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    Getting 20 minutes every 3/4 games is no good. He's clearly a class above everyone else in our squad. If you can't see that you're watching the wrong sport.
     
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    I would rather he played in all our remaining games and go down with a hint of class rather than plat the tepid system we have at the moment
     
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    Thank God. I thought this board was almost exclusively peopled by Django-clones. My abiding memory of this totally sh*te season will be the fact that we've wasted one of the most naturally gifted players I've seen in a red shirt in almost 50 years of supporting the club. I truly hope the 'work your socks off' brigade enjoy League One. You deserve it.
     
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    To be fair mate, I've discussed Paddy with you a number of times and I've always said I rate him. If I was in charge I'd start him every week, without fail, I've just tried to put forward the point that his selection in the team isn't cut and dried, because as much as we rate him their are some negative aspects to his game.

    There are a number of us who do enjoy the skill Paddy offers. When he invariably leaves at the end of the season, I will be very sad to see him go.
     
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    I've always valued your comments Jay. We may not always agree, but at least we can have a reasoned debate. But one contributor to this board actually made a comment about Paddy earlier this evening that was borderline sectarian in nature, and I have to admit that I have wondered whether some of the bile directed towards a player who has hardly featured, is motivated by things other than a perceived lack of work-rate. Hope not.
     
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    My original question was how Paddy's inclusion could have made things worse. Nobody has answered it so far. I could have played all season on the left wing and things could not have been worse.

    By the way, I'm right footed, 30 years too old, my right knee is made of Teflon, my left knee is f****d and I was a keeper. Apart from that I'd be the perfect left sided midfielder
     
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    It's back to the old if you don't rate McCourt you just want a team full of players that work hard myth again is it.

    Truth is he's not that great. I wish he was, I wish he had more consistency & better fitness as we'd have a good championship player but so would Mellis, Cwyka & a few others which is why we're more than likely going down.

    Anyway we'll see in the summer, he'll not be a regular for anyone at this level next season though, I'll guarantee that. If he does get a championship club it'll only be as a bit part player like he is for us.

    I didn't want to get into any debates on Paddy on here because it's boring but I'm fed up of reading people say he'd improve us when all the evidence suggests otherwise.

    Instead of backing the lads who've put in 4 very good performances out of the last 5 & taken 7 points (which is more than most on here predicted) I've come on here to read that they're all **** & that Paddy would improve us.

    We've got Charlton & Leeds next, as long as we defend like we have in the last 5 games & create chances like we have in 4 of them we've a great chance of taking 6 points
     
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    I hope not too.

    It's been good to read your posts sticking up for Paddy these last few months. I can count on one hand the number of players I've seen in a Barnsley shirt who can beat a player as easily and with as little effort as when Paddy glides past the opposition: Ronnie Glavin, David Currie, Craig Hignett, Martin Bullock maybe. After that I'm struggling. I don't know when we'll get to see the next one. I hope such players still have a place in the modern game. Football can be really dull without them.
     
  17. Whi

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    I'm one of his biggest admirers, but when he came on today I saw a frustrated and slightly restricted Paddy. Can't recall who it was, but he received a ball that was aimed at his head, he tried bringing it down but handled it. His reaction was telling. Pointed to his feet and remonstrated with his teammate.

    He didn't really run at opponents today. He half heartedly went into challenges. But most of his passing was great, as was his movement, dropping into space. But his teammates more often than not, let him down. I don't think for a minute Danny rates him, or that he'll be here next season. I think that's a shame myself.

    Someone further up has it bang on though. If I've learned a thing whilst in Jacob's company (and other footballers) it's that a run of games is imperative if you want the best from them. The odd cameo from the bench, or 45 minutes here and there, that's not suited to certain players. I've said it all season on Jacob (for Boro) and Paddy (for us) that both work better when starting, and when given a proper run. They aren't the type of player who can play fleetingly.


    I think Danny has dropped a bollock in starting Cywka for the last 5 games or so, when he's clearly the opposite to what I've said above. He's an impact player. Whereas Paddy is more effective when playing from the start and regularly. And I dare anyone who watched todays game to tell me Cywka worked any harder than Paddy has in every appearance he's made for us.
     
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    You should be good at sliding tackles then.
     
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    Class player when used right.

    Where Danny is playing him he's useless. But play him regularly in an attacking position and he could have kept us up.

    No idea why Danny thinks him and Mellis are players who can play centrally further back.
     
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    I don't do tackles, sliding or otherwise. I don't track back and I don't close people down. My job is to make them do all that to me. if I do those things, it means I am wasting my time defending, when there are 10 others in my team who are paid to do that. Surely one out of 11 of us can be given a chance to scare the opposition?
     

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