Paul heckingbottom article

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  1. TitusMagee

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    Im annoyed with myself for responding! It is kind of funny initially but it's just become boring and predictable now.
     
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    Well let’s start ...........

    Get wealthy owners - to prevent players leaving the club.
    As per - this season.
    Something Barnsley hasn’t had compared to Leeds and Sheffield - hence Barnsley managers leaving.
     
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    Have you ever considered that hecky’s pillocking you? All the player contracts in the world wouldn’t have stopped him letting Leeds make him a millionaire.
     
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    Let’s fooking try summert that some might understand.

    You have a mortgage.
    You have a family.

    You earn £20k per year in a job at a factory that you love and it’s enough money to keep you living comfortably - also the owners have big plans for the factory.

    A job comes up at a bigger factory- the job pays £40k per year - but you know the job is much harder - it’s work that you wouldn’t enjoy nearly as much - and you know the bosses at that factory fire people very quickly.

    Do you take the other job ???

    Risk ....... a very important consideration when moving from one job to another.
     
  5. Young Nudger

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    Latest news.
    Hecky deemed to be a LIAR
     
  6. Young Nudger

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    Poor memory
     
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    It’s a bit different when you get paid for 2 years work whether you get sacked after 6 weeks or 18 months though.
     
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    I think the opposite. He’s taken unwarranted hammer for ‘signing players’ on here, on Twitter & according to others in person for players he probably never wanted.
     
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    It’s all the past, interesting but that’s about it

    All that matters is the now...players are now being signed on longer contracts which should iliminate the problems we’ve had before albeit with the exception of players signed before the new ownership (Bradshaw obviously gone, others could follow in January). But newer signings all signing long deals

    As for new signings everyone knows we have head coaches not managers which means the head coach will never be 100% responsible but the recent signing of Bahre clearly shows the club back stendels judgment in the transfer market.
     
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    Why on earth would we have considered sacking him?

    He’d had to rebuild two thirds of a full squad in one summer on one of the lowest wage budgets in the league with all signings to be players under 24 & the longest list of injuries I’ve ever known us have.

    The board would’ve been delighted with finishing 21st last season after the summer we’d had
     
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    Mowatt & James replaced Hourihane & Morsy
     
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    So in summary:

    IMO in Hecky we had a manager who introduced the most exciting dynamic football I’ve ever witnessed at Barnsley.
    We had relatively cheap players doing fantastic things.

    So how did we take care of this manager:

    1) The then owner PC makes a catastrophic decision not to extend players contracts after the 2016 final. This decision resulted in the firesale of a team that was a point away from the playoffs to the Premier League before being sold.

    2) A new CEO is then appointed (by new owners?) and takes away the recruitment of players away from Hecky - so rendering Heckys position at the club totally untenable.

    It’s often said that some people treat their own worse than strangers.
    I think we have a case of that here.

    Hecky has been treated extremely shoddily by Barnsley Football Club.
     
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    I think 99% of fans would’ve given Scowen & Winnall new deals. A few had a bizarre dislike of Hourihane so probably about 80% for him.

    The only other ones were Watkins & Bree weren’t they? Bree should’ve been offered a new deal sooner, Watkins took a while to get going.

    For me the major reason we were down the bottom of the table was Johnson’s constant tinkering & his obsession with no. 10’s & playing them out wide
     
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    Brilliant article. His version of what happened is almost exactly what I’d thought happened.

    I’d heard he came close to resigning in January. I can’t even begin to imagine how infuriating it’d be if you’ve been banging the drum for contract extensions to no avail & then you get to January with the team on the verge of the play offs & 8 players hand in transfer requests or at least tell the board they want to be sold.

    I still think if he wasn’t a fan of the club he would’ve resigned.

    I will add something that continues to wind me up & thats this constant pretence that Patrick Cryne is above any criticism.

    I love him & what he did for the club but he made mistakes as well. Robins walked out, Hill was constantly making comments to the media about how unhappy he was, both Flitcroft & Heckingbottom took a long time to take the job when it seemed like it should’ve been an easy decision, Johnson walked out the first chance he got. There’s a trend there. It can’t always be the managers fault. Logic tells you that Cryne wasn’t an easy person to work for.
     
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    To be fair from that list I think you can straight away take off Johnson because he left to go back to his club who he had a long history with.
     
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    I’d probably agree to be honest
     
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    I'd invite him to run a mobile DJ company. It is a lot harder to make money. I'm sure a lot of people on here could give other examples from their own lives. Life isn't easy. Hecky was a decent fullback & earned his right to manage the club by going through the coaching ranks.

    His insights into how the club used to be run are interesting to a point. Certainly we were all critical of player contracts. My feeling is though that he has done very well out of the situation & I would be very surprised if he had any success away from Barnsley. Leeds was a cash in. His main playing card with us was being "one of our own" & knowing the club & it's fans. Not sure where he goes from here.

    I bear him no malice & I wish him good luck. I'm also glad we have Mr Stendel in charge now. I think the board have surpassed themselves appointing him, Winkler & the rest of the coaching team. COYR.
     
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    Slowing it down just by one window would have allowed us to finish the season with the squad that started it, and get sensible transfer fees for the ones that did decide to go in the summer if we'd stayed down. That would have made a pretty fundamental difference to the situation on every level.
     
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    I wonder how Bournemouth manage it? :rolleyes:
     
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    It was obvious that Hourihane and Winnall were both good enough for the Championship and clear that we should have been paying Bree more than a pittance.
     

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