Personal terms agree for ched

Well if women are chucking themselves at him as you put it why did he have to rape someone then?

 

In theory you are right.
But go to MOJUK or INNOCENT websites and read some of the cases where people are fighting a wrongful conviction on the Joint Enterprise law. The most common scenario is when innocent gang members have tagged along with the gang and a serious crime has been committed by the senior gang members and these innocent ones can not prove the attack happened without their knowledge or their assent. There is a registered blind youngster fighting his conviction under the JE law because he simply watched a gang member assault someone - his presence taken as a sign of 'assent.'
It is almost impossible to prove you don't have a knowledge of something and the term 'assent' is so vague it can mean anything. Taking an extreme example could you really prove that you didn't know your neighbour wasn't going to rob a bank when you gave him a lift to the bank?
There are prisoners who have been found guilty on the J E law when they were actually in prison.

Serving prisoner have been found guilty of a crime with this law despite being in prison at the time of the crime.

Macdonald was instrumental in the rape. And the receptionist was lucky not to be charged.

 

Thing is Tarn Tyke.........in many cases its NOT 'their version of reality'..........its what newspapers and the television are telling them to think.

There is no one on here advocating rape......in any shape or form

However, when a girl gets that DRUNK that she shags a footballer and his mate and then says it was rape because I didn't give consent - although the two others in the room thought she had...........then there is something seriously wrong
Especially when the guy insist he hasn't done anything wrong and will not apologise
And his girlfriend backs him up in believing he didn't rape this girl

I'll repeat..........If she wasn't that drunk......and she had clearly said NO..........then we wouldn't be talking about this
This girl is a disgrace.....but she is just one of hundreds that throw themselves at professional footballers
If truth be known........I would bet that there are thousands of incidents like this involving professional footballers.

 

Can we please give this subject rest now please

its getting tedious. By keeping on about just sensationalises the subject. One clear way ahead for all football fans is to Boycott all Oldham games Home and away... yes just do not go, its just one game for every club to play in front of an empty stadium. the FA and The FL seemingly will do nowt so fans can do something ... there have been players banned for life for throwing games ... cheating if you like, also druggies too... so how come we let a convicted rapist carry on.... the dual standard is massive here. The cheaters and druggies only really harm themselves... the rapist harms a mind, a family, a community. So just do not go to Oakwell when Oldham come. I ask all the other teams who have yet to face them to do the same boycott, home or away.

 

Well you've surprised me Nudger I didn't think you could sink any lower but you've managed it

 

Still clueless. And a moron. You are advocating rape. You're defending a rape (court jury says it was after being presented ALL the evidence) by excusing it as something else, and even blaming the victim.

I'll not waste any more words on you though.

 

If he says he didn't do it and his girlfriend agrees then he's innocent. It's easy this justice lark.

 

Wait up a minute. This poor little blind lad you speak of didn't witness an assault. He witnessed MURDER. And he wasn't innocent either. AND the lads were known thugs. AND the registered blind lad had been involved in a similar incident with the same people a week before (a claim denied by his family who are obviously impartial). AND he made no attempt to intervene or even leave, instead staying with them while they murdered him.

So no its not as simple as you make out is it. And if we are using your bank robbery analogy then I think we should be more accurate and say that he drove his mates, whova week earlier he had robbed a bank with, to a bank and then sat in the car outside the bank as they walked in with a load of shotguns.


I also think that using a disability as an excuse is appalling

 

In Dustanis mind as long as Evans wiped his **** on the curtains after he'd done his dastardly deed he's not guilty and tbf Dustanis not the only one judging some of the posts

 

That is the most hilarious post I have read for ages.

There is nothing you've said that might not be committed for example by a bloke having a secret affair! In fact, you must put a brick through your telly every time a Carry On film gets screened.

Which bit of your narrative proves he is a rapist?

You'll be saying he had "random shagger" written on his underpants next

Witch hunt this is.

 

Yorkshire Ripper is trying for release again why don't you run his campaign you'd be fekin ideal .
He didn't play football though so you might not get much support from thugs to threaten his victims families

 

I think the rapist bit is the bit where he penetrated a girl who never said he could. I'd say that's quite rapey myself.

 

I am truly astounded and appalled at the amount of support for Evans and condemnation of the girl in question.
She has had to move and change her name at least twice and can no longer see family and friends. I despair for society I really do.

 

Secret affair ?

Unbelievable

 

As usual ST a superficial response to a very serious subject namely Joint Enterprise. Clearly the cases I quoted are not the same ones that you have chanced upon.
Why not familiarise yourself with the J E law and apply it to all involved in the appalling events that occurred at that Premier Inn.

 

I experienced allsorts from my early teens well into my twenties. I've been to some strange and dark places, seen and partaken in some dark and strange things. Some naughty naughty things too, had quite the criminal record until it was wiped once I'd grown up. I was a bit of a rebel. Or, a lovely person in modern terminology. I've taken copious amounts of substances, surrounded myself with some right 'characters'. I've been in some right states.

Can't say I've ever thought it a good idea or a 'turn on' to enter a bedroom uninvited and unannounced before shagging a semi conscious, pissed up lass though. I wouldn't feel good about doing that, and I've never had a problem pulling lasses who'll happily shag me willingly.

I wasn't a saint. But about ten years ago I grew up, got bored of the frivolity and I'm such a good, boring lad now.




Even if Evans hadn't raped her, he hardly comes out of that incident in a good light. I think he did rape her though. A jury of his peers saw/heard/read every shred of evidence, we haven't had that luxury. He had a very expensively assembled legal team. He was found guilty, unanimously. Not many rape cases end up with a conviction. Not many 'famous' people are convicted or punished to the fullest extent. He was. He then lost an appeal.

He's a rapist. He's a sex offender. He has to sign the sex offenders register. Women and children would have to come into contact with him. I don't believe he should be allowed back into football. His ******* moron of a partner and her wealthy father will see him good financially (how bizarre are they to stand by him?) so I don't buy the excuse that he needs to earn a living. But, there are plenty of jobs out there that he could apply for. Normal jobs. Like normal folk do. But then, he isn't normal is he?


I feel sorry for his victim. Had to change her identity and location five times now, can't see her family or friends. And folk are blaming her for being raped? We've got some reight cnuts ont planet. Defending other cnuts. Who'd have thought it?

 

I know the law on joint enterprise. Which registered blind kid are you talking about then?

 

Except the burden of proof isn't on you, it's on the prosecution.