Petrol/Diesel cars

Met him mate. Believe me. He is.

 

Did you mean this guy... Surak?

 

^^^^^^^^^ this. Let’s polute the planet. “I don’t want to look at that monstrosity” brigade.
Not so sure it applies to most greens though. To that extent. They can’t have both ways in all cases. The ones out at sea they would have little to complain about. As I’m not sure how it affects marine life to the extent our countryside wildlife is affected. Sure some expert on here may have a shout re that.

 

Agree with that except for the pay by mile bit. As electric takes over from ICE, fuel duty revenue will fall off whilst electric vehicle drivers get to drive (relatively) tax-free. A mileage tax would be fair for all and those that still drive petrol/diesel vehicles pay a little more for the pollution aspect. Remember that electric vehicles are not pollution-free, they have a carbon footprint from manufacture and from power generation also don't forget that they still produce brake dust. Not to mention the environmental disaster caused by metal mining for batteries.

 

Haha well spotted. Now are you gonna stop intimidating me?

 

Is that the vehicle excise duty that some motorists call Road Tax when they rant on at me for being a cyclist and shouldn't be on the road cos I don't pay it? W@nkers.

 

At least we can all blame autocorrect /predictive text nowadays

PS I KNOW English is your second language in all fairness

 

Surely it will help marine life, almost like a reserve. I can't see them allowing gret trawlers sailing in and out of the turbine towers.

 

Absolutely. However, if the power is generated from wind/wave/solar and is thus essentially free (apart from installation and maintenance obviously) doesn't that change the economics of hydro-electric schemes like this? Surely we can afford to lose 30% due to inefficiency (basically frictional heat) and still have a capacity to maintain the inertia in the grid?

On a side note, why don't all reservoirs have generation capability for the odd times that they have too much water? Obviously not in drought ridden areas like Yorkshire... Currently they simply let the excess out and waste all the energy in the process.

 

Point taken. I do go to the shops on my bike though. When I was cycle commuting I stopped off at the shops on my way home most days and filled up my panniers and backpack. Just had to make sure I had a list of things I needed (kept it on my phone), I never went to the shops otherwise unless there were large bulky items I needed.

The shops could help in this by not having multi-buy offers etc. They just make it more expensive for the very people that are doing their bit for the planet and cheaper for the very ones who are not...

 

Re your first bit. Not sure you’d get more energy output by putting it into hydropower than putting it straight into supply.

To the second. I believe in clean water treatment that already is the case. With excess water running into overspill reservoirs. Like at Langsette. ( called compensation reservoirs) British steel use/used that excess for steel production at Stocksbridge.

In waste water. ( sewage treatment works) The big treatment works use the gas produced through digestion plants. To produce their own electricity. And any excess not used by that plant/ works is fed into the grid system.

 

In 2015 I worked at the steel works in Scunny and one day I cycled down a road out in the sticks with all posters about the wind turbines (there are a lot round there). I happened to look at the cycle computer app on my phone which told me I was cycling 15 feet below sea level. It occurred to me that these idiots truly were turkeys voting for Christmas...

 

You definitely wouldn't mate, I was suggesting that it might be a useful way of storing some power (albeit inefficiently) AND providing the power generation to stabilise the grid.

 

Loads of generation schemes could and indeed should have been introduced, the problem has been overcoming the vested interests of the hydrocarbon industries with their lobbying (read as back-handers), stiffling other energy provision.

 

All good but not that widespread unfortunately.

 

Great Scott!! How much plutonium did it use again?

 

Battery technology is developing at a phenominal pace; todays batteries will be the equivalent of the old lead / acid back breakers in 10 years time.

 

You say not widespread. But most if not all water companies use the same production to create their own electricity. I believe every single major treatment works that has that capability to do self generation indeed do. If viable.

In YW. I know that for a fact. Take the Sheffield one at Meadowhall. Repeat it numerous times . Throughout Yorkshire. Some smaller treatment works sending sludge by tanker to those that generate. It’s not perfect. But what is.

That sludge in days gone by. Used for fertilising fields. But then there were issues re what was in that sludge. Metals. Chemicals etc and farmers fields had to lie fallow for years.

Then that sludge had to be incinerated. Self burning. ( auto thermic) once fired up.

Now the digested sludge is disposed of by other methods. ( won’t burn . No calorific value)

Wrote that out cos I’m bored. And nowt else better to do at the mo.

Sorry folks.