Petrol price

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  1. jud

    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    I’m in a similar boat, mines about £130 to fill up and it upsets me every time I go, I’m wanting to off load mine too
     
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    We're changing cars soon. Only looking at electric despite the high initial cost.
     
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    Have u seen how much charging points have increased by too, they are not unaffected. The high initial cost being offset by the cheaper running cost gap is quickly diminishing.
     
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    Funnily enough, the proceeds of mine are going towards a boat :D
     
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    Yes, I realise it's not a panacea by any stretch of the imagination, both cost-wise and environmentally. But it still looks like the least bad option right now.
     
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    How long before the hydrogen powered cars come along?
    Then it will be a case of how much does it cost for a tank full of tap water.
    There are very interesting videos on Youtube about hydrogen fuel, all you are doing is splitting the water into hydrogen and oxygen, the latter just comes out and dissipates into the air. Simple really, the government would hate it. Where's their revenue going to come from?
     
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    :D:D:D Good on y’a!!!
     
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    Tarmac tax.......the more miles you do the more they’ll tax us!!!! Toss bags!!!!
     
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    Public charge rates have gone up around 3 times in the last year, across the board for most charge providers. Where Instavolt was 35p a year ago, it it now 57p per kwh. On the basis of achieving 3.5 miles per kwh, that works out at 16.3p per mile.

    But you need to bear in mind that

    a. This is to use rapid chargers. Even if you had no means of charging at home, you can charge on public 7kw destination chargers for much less than that, and if you choose carefully, some rapids are still cheap. Podpoint rapids in Tesco car parks for example are 28p per kwh (8p per mile).

    b. There are other ways to get the costs down. There is a charging app called Bonnet, covering multiple charge point providers, that allows you to pre purchase charging for a progressively lower price the more you pre purchase. The price is the same no matter which charge point provider you use. For example, I think if you pre purchase 15 quid a month's worth, it brings the price per kwh back down to 35p

    c. If you can charge at home and have a dual rate tariff, charging at home can still be as little as 7.5p per kwh, or just over 2p per mile. So taking the @Farnham_Red example of a £118 fill up for 61 litres, which would get I assume, around 600 miles - that 600 miles would still only cost me £12 if I charge overnight.
     
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    Never.

    Buses, yes
    Trucks, yes
    Cars, No.
     
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    You can do 600 miles on one charge. That’s impressive
    Seriously I would consider an electric car but I do a 450 mile round trip a couple of time a month and several times a year do between 500 and 750 miles in a day and currently that’s difficult for 450 and really not practical for 750. If I could get 500 miles out of a full charge I’d be giving a lot more serious consideration to electric
     
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    that's probably on borrowed time as well though. fully expecting home charging tariffs to just go up and up. public charging is already as expensive as fuel. don't get me wrong, all for the switch to electric, but I'm not expecting it to remain 'cheap' for long. the cartels won't allow it.
     
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    I've converted my car to an alternative fuel source to save money. It now runs on crushed Faberge eggs
     
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    Yeah, the 750 mile one is a bit of a blocker, hard to see how that could be done in an EV. You must be in the very small minority of people for whom an EV really is not suitable right now, unfortunately.

    I have to say, if I tried to do 750 miles in one day, it would break me. That's got to be, what, 14 hours on the road perhaps?
     
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    marine diesel is expensive too! unless you plan to row of course :)
     
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    I'm not. There will always be a place for cheap rate tariffs. It smooths out the demand curve and actually helps the grid. What may happen is that the difference between peak and cheap rate may narrow as more people buy EVs and demand for overnight charging goes up because the difference in demand between cheap and peak times will be smaller, so the rate difference will reflect that. But then again, I am not expecting electricity rates to remain this eye watering in the long term either. They are what they are at the moment because of a range of factors coming together to produce a bit of a perfect storm in relation to gas prices but as our grid relies less and less on gas over the next few years, as we upscale our renewables supply, the prices will stabilise at a more 'normal' level.

    Even at the current eye watering rates for domestic electricity at peak time, using it to charge your car is still much cheaper than petrol. It always will be.
     
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    Left Les Arcs at 9.20 am arrived Calais 18.42 left Folkestone 20.28 arrived Farnham 22.16
    In reality allowing for stops it’s around 11 hours driving but shared with Mrs Farnham mostly on French motorways which are far less stressful than British ones

    don’t usually do quite so much 650 miles more common returning from the Alps but pre pandemic did it 3 times a year

    hilariously I did the Survey by some “independent” group on electric car suitability and it decided based on misinterpreting my data that as 95% of my journeys were under 30 miles I was ideally suited for an electric car as long as it had a range of at least 60 miles.
    Giving the same weighting to a trip to the shops in Farnham as a return trip to my dads or the alps. Can see a good argument for when we replace the Mrs’s car for having one electric and one ICE though. Much less convinced by the plug in hybrids
     
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    They're puting Porn videos on as you fill up, so you can see someone else being fcked same time as you are.
     
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    At 3mph on a narrowboat with the majority used on heating ;), so less tax, it's peanuts compared.
     
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