Poll: What is your gender (serious answers only please)

Why as a man am I not allowed to point out misandry?

Something you seem to be willingly ignoring.

 

Apologies redrum, I didn’t actually realise you were asking for the definition; (I wrongly assumed you were asking ‘what is cis’ in a rhetorical way), though it had been given earlier in the thread. I would have added it to the response if so.

But yeah in this context cis male / female means your gender aligns with your genetic sex at birth - as such it applies to the majority of people.

 

In what way has anything I’ve said to you or Helen been so nasty as you imply?

I can assure you I’d say exactly the same to you in person, in the unlikely event this was the topic of conversation.

I haven’t resulted to swearing or abuse as far as I recall; though this is a subject I feel strongly about and do feel the need to vocalise that. I don’t hide behind a username.

It might not appear on my passport or tax return, but Troff is actually a name I’m known by, by many people. And since I was a kid.

 

As I said in the post you replied to you've always came across a decent poster. I haven't taken anything you said to me as nasty. Your reply to Helen was abit ott Imo. There is some on here how I described though.

 

A sadly predictable thread.

 

Every. Flipping. Time.

 

Abit of bullying here I feel.

 

Feel free to report it! I think it's very reasonable to point out that whenever I enter a thread which touches on controversial issues then I can always predict the exact arguments that you personally are going to raise. I just find it interesting.

 

Fair enough.

I found Helen’s posts pretty offensive to be honest, and replied in that manner. Though I didn’t say anything that was intended to be abusive - I just said what I genuinely felt.

 

That's similar to claiming reverse racism.

 

Correct but I will just say there is also a third and that’s Trans either way and if you are Trans in name only and not even considering the operation then you are still either a Woman or a Man.

 

You can possibly have intersex where you are born with both male and female parts, often not fully formed. About 1 in 2000 births.

I think one of the problems with Cis is it sounds like Cissy.

 

Just for clarity, troff and I aren't cousins. Other Jays are available.

 

In your head maybe Helen. I’m not sure anyone else who’d read this thread, or any previous one where you’ve mentioned misogyny and sexism, would agree.

I have never had any opposition to any measure to promote sexual equality; I have advocated for women’s rights in my roles in my professional life as well.

It is your right as a woman to speak out for women’s rights. It is not your right as a woman to use discriminatory language against males generally - something which you have done on more than one occasion.

That is prejudicial, and whilst you personally might not believe that sexism against males or misandry are actually a thing - they are.

You can advocate for women’s rights, even be a feminist, without that.

ST directly swearing and using abusive language in response I don’t condone - but I do see why he got frustrated, and the language he used didn’t come across to me as being motivated by him being a man responding to you as a woman and trying to assert aggressiveness, more him as one person responding out of frustration to you as another for your biased view.

Scott’s response was a little problematic to me too if I’m honest. He rightly pointed out STs post to not be right - I’ve agreed myself - but took it further and said he’d not allow anyone to speak to a woman like that. Inferring women have more of a right to be spoken to nicely, whilst stepping in to protect you. It came from a good place with the best intentions - but it was actually discriminatory, he wouldn’t have done any such thing had STs post been to another male contributor. He was only trying to do the right thing and help. Which is help you didn’t ask for or need, you are clearly more than capable of handling yourself in these debates.

However your reply to him on this wasn’t only directed to him for his post - it showed your view on men generally. I stand by what I said yesterday.

I can’t do anything about historic sexual inequality. But as a man now I can advocate for better, fight for the rights of my wife and daughters, girls yet to be born even. I like to think I do that. That doesn’t mean i will or should tolerate blind prejudice against my whole gender. It would be completely counter intuitive.

 

Yeah and do you know what really boils mine... kettles in hotels and B&b's!!.

 

Never trust a kettle in a hotel room lad

 

Ohh yeah kid, that's why I always take my own little travel kettle.

 

Wise move methinks

 

There you see lol, we've now turned this thread into something worth giggling about.

 

ST directly swearing and using abusive language in response I don’t condone - but I do see why he got frustrated, and the language he used didn’t come across to me as being motivated by him being a man responding to you as a woman and trying to assert aggressiveness, more him as one person responding out of frustration to you as another for your biased view.

It happened twice. And because you're a male you add the but.
Everyone's biased but I didn't personally attack anyone. It was ( or should have been) a discussion .