Post Office proposed closures Barnsley Area

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    agree there Acky :)
     
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    this is the problem though, we'll end up in a society where everything is ruled by profit and not be any sort of social or community need. taken to its obvious conclusion, profit above all else will be a very ugly thing.
     
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    But what you are missing here Acky, is that a lot of theese post offices don't do anything for social cohesion! Hardly anyone uses them. Why for example would Grimey need 3? Won't it help the community if all that do use the Post Office use just one?

    I agree that in some instances the Government should intervene to subsidise non profit making post offices. This might be neccessary in far flung rural communities but not many of Barnsley's industrial villages which are geographically close together.
     
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    You give it money

    .... a bit like Northern Rock.</p>

    There are some things that should be preserved, and for very good reasons. the Post Office is just one.</p>

    Perhaps, when EVERYBODY is on line and elderly folk who are scared of technology aren't here to use it, or those that can't afford it have quick and easy access, and everything you want can be obtained easily on line, then perhaps there may come a day to review such provisions.</p>

    Mind you, thatwon't help our increasingsocial isolation.</p>
     
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    Old people will always be scared of modern technology!!

    I do not agree with the social cohesion part. Why does the Government not subsidise my local pub that is facing closure? More people use the pub than the post office!
     
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    Tsk!

    I'm not even going to start on that one, apart from to say,</p>

    1) Attendance at a Post Office is usually for more constructive needs, and</p>

    2) Rarely is there an opportunity to emerge from a Post Office in an anti-social condition. Unless of course they've impounded your Giro.</p>
     
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    RE: Tsk!

    when did you last use a sub post office?
     
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    RE: That's capitalism..

    A Co-operative Commonwealth
     
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    RE: Tsk!

    Two weeks ago when I renewed my Tax Disc. Yes, I know I could have done it online. I also use it to obtain my elderly Mum's pension when she can't get there, and I also send packages and cards to Australia and NZ, which have to be weighed.</p>

    Let's not forget that many Post Offices also support an attendant business, like stationery, sweets, groceries. Many of those would not be self-supporting on their own without the post office income. When the PO shuts, everything else goes with it too. Another asset lost to a local village. Another treck into town clogging up roads and cashpoint tills, causing the able bodied to moan about the queues at the checkouts.</p>

    </p>
     
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    All good points

    Apart from your flippant dismissal of the local pub which in my opinion is of as much social importance to a village as any post office, probably more so.
     
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    I wouldn't have called that a flippant dismissal.</p>

    I simply made the point that a Post Office served a more constructive need in that it is there to facilitate the business transactions we all have to do at some point, including the need to go and collect income as well as spend it.</p>

    I very much agree that a pub is important to a community too, but it is still more wholly a business proposition, to sell a product and make a profit from it. The principle of the Post Office is different.</p>
     
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    RE: Tsk!

    tax discs can be renewed online. The closure of most of these post offices is not going to mean a 'massive trek'! Maybe a little further to go, but not a massive trek in Barnsley. For example a a mile further to go down Cudeth instead of a few hundred yards.

    It will make the post offices that remain busier, this may lead to greater social mixing and cohesion?
     
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    sounds interesting. How does that work?
     
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    I think

    .. with respect, that we don't always appreciate the plight of those who are more dependent on important local services than we are.</p>

    Old age, and in many cases infirmity, are things that we will all have to deal with sooner or later. Only then will we realise just how important the need is to have things close by, at a time when we have less capacity to deal with them.</p>
     
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    RE: Does Grimey need 3 post offices?

    Not everyone can easily make it to a bus stop or have use of own transport. if you think bout the ages of alot of post office regulars are it could really effect em. Old lass rarn corner will need a bus to get from one at cemey rd to one on high st, never mind cudworth.
     
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    RE: Does Grimey need 3 post offices?

    There's a lot of giros to be cashed in Grimey tho.
     
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    RE: That's capitalism..

    BNP !!!!!!!
     
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    whats BNP got to do with owt? suppose they want to keep post offices do they? :D
     
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    RE: You give it money

    apart from the CEO parasites post offices do not take the money they once did to allow them to have huge numbers of branches open. Its ok using Northern rock as an example even that is still going tits up with Government funding.
     
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    i didn't bring up social cohesion. I just think we should make sure the most vulnerable people in society are not made to suffer because a company has to make a profit.
     

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