Postecoglou

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  1. Jay

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    I have no ability. I'd have spent the year tossing it off, let the coaches and director of football do their thing and they would have probably finished a hell of a lot higher in the table than 17th.
     
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    I'm amazed anyone thinks he shouldn't have been sacked. How are you meant to spend tens of millions backing a bloke in the summer transfer window when you know you're likely going to have to sack him by October?
     
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    The players can't be any worse affected than getting the guy they rate highly sacked, by finishing so far down the table.
     
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    Think his injury issues have been over egged TBH.
    Yes they’ve missed people but so have others, Arsenal, Brighton & Villa all had similar injury numbers.
     
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    Absolutely had to go.
    The league performances for nearly his whole tenure have been poor. The first few months of his time aside they have been abject.
    Winning a cup does not excuse that.
     
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    I don’t know about Brighton but there’s no way Arsenal or Villa suffered like Spurs did.

    Arsenal didn’t have many injuries this season, they were just unlucky that Saka, Havertz, Jesus & Martinelli were injured at the same time.
     
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    I'd say having all your first choice forwards and the first backup injured is pretty bad.
     
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    It was but nothing like what Spurs had to contend with
     
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    That’s just the number of injuries. For instance Saliba & Timber not playing in the dead rubber against Southampton counts as two injuries yet I’m pretty sure both would have played if it was a game with any kind of jeopardy.

    Number of days is the big one.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...injury-table-2024-25-Tottenham-Liverpool.html
     
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    Just to clarify on Postecoglou, I’m not even a fan of his. I think his tactics are bonkers at times but I think he’s a great man & I admire people who put their balls on the line & back it up.

    He said he would win a trophy in his second season & he did it.

    It took an incredible amount of bravery to say from January that their priority were the cups & rest players in the league.

    Spurs were always the laughing stock of the ‘big 6’. The ones that didn’t win anything & bottled it in cup competitions.

    Over the last two seasons they’ve had to move on from Kane & have had the gradual decline of Son to deal with & have signed & developed a lot of young players, they’ve won a trophy & are now in a great position to kick on with the champions league money.

    I feel Ange deserved the chance to go again after winning that trophy.

    If Spurs fans are happy going back to been a club who’s aim it is to finish 4th every season & not compete for the cups then so be it but I think the fans will have got a taste for winning things now & won’t accept that kind of mediocrity.
     
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    Did it? They were already adrift of the top 4 by a distance they were never going to make up. He had no choice but to put all his eggs in that basket. Plus even with the players he rested the starting lineups were better than 17th.

    Do you think Spurs would be likely to finish higher in the league keeping Ange than sacking him? I really don't.
     
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    Could be, suppose it depends how somebody want to view stats.
    Suppose the real way to tell would be to determine how many key players missed how many games.
    Ultimately other teams have had injury issues too but Spurs seem to be the ones(and Arsenal) talking about it.

    On a side note interesting that the site I quoted had figures way different to your site.
     
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    He was literally going game to game. All throughout the second half of the season it was ‘if they go out of Europe on Thursday he’ll be out of a job’.

    If he had prioritised the league & they’d finished say 10th or 11th then that’s just a below average season (of which they’ve had many). If they finished 17th & he didn’t win a trophy then that’s the worst Spurs season of my lifetime.

    Thats why it was brave for me.

    I remember before the Eintracht Frankfurt quarter final second leg in Germany that pundits were just openly talking about Spurs having a new manager for Sunday’s league game. He knew that one bad performance in Europe & that was it he was gone with nothing to show for his time with Spurs.

    As for higher or lower, I don’t really know. It depends who’s out there. If they were bringing in an Unai Emery or Eddie Howe then I would expect them to do far better but I don’t think they are.

    I’m not sold on Thomas Frank who I think is still the favourite. He’s done a very good job at Brentford but it’s a whole different ball game dealing with European football too.

    Going up to Newcastle in a league cup quarter final & resting their best players & getting knocked out followed by playing a reserve team & getting knocked out of the FA cup by Plymouth in a season where they were never in any kind of relegation trouble would be very concerning for me.

    I think you want someone who’s successfully dealt with a packed calendar before & at the same time it’s got to be someone who can work with Levy. There’s a long list of Spurs managers that don’t speak positively of him.
     
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    They were 14th in the league before the injuries started. I also think the injuries are partly caused by the constant high-intensity running that Angeball demands.

    The reality is Tottenhams squad are nowt near being able to compete in the champions league. Imagine giving minutes to them constantly pressing twice a week and they'll still be getting battered anyway.

    The Europa league win should be treated as a massive bonus but it isnt a reflection of the team or style Ange has built.
     
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    In the 15 seasons before this one they have finished outside the top 6 twice, and those were 7th and 8th, with the manager being sacked towards the end of both those seasons.

    Even if he'd concentrated on the league and finished 11th it would have been a dogshit season likely to get him sacked. It wasn't brave to focus on Europe, it was the only chance they had of scraping anything positive out of the season and his only chance to still be in the job this summer.
     
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    Of course it was brave. If they finished 17th & they didn’t win a trophy where do you think he’s getting a job next? He’s not getting any kind of decent job after leading Spurs to their worst season in decades.
     

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