Proportional Representation

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  1. Merde Tete

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    Not me. It would be hugely hypocritical of me to suddenly change my mind about PR just because it would deliver a result I didn't want. Objectively, tonight's results just confirm the opinion that FPTP isn't remotely fit for purpose.
     
    Merde Tete, Jul 5, 2024 at 7:50 AM
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    15%. Much less disturbing, but definitely something that Labour should ignore at their peril.
     
    Merde Tete, Jul 5, 2024 at 7:52 AM
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    Agree(guessing you replied before seeing my reply to Helen).
     
    lk311, Jul 5, 2024 at 7:55 AM
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    Interesting. Under PR we'd have a progressive coalition with a reasonable majority, assuming Lab/Lib Dem/Green were capable of working together. I can't say I'd be unhappy with that.
     
    Merde Tete, Jul 5, 2024 at 9:28 AM
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    Still very much in favour of PR.

    People vote differently when their vote matters. Voting Reform as a protest is one thing, but if that vote may actually put a candidate in Westminster... there's a lot of people wouldn't do that.

    I voted Labour. I'm delighted they've won. But if I knew my vote really counted it would have gone to Green. It went to Labour to help ensure Barnsley South did not elect a Reform candidate.
     
    Jay, Jul 5, 2024 at 9:38 AM
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    Not 109% no, but not giving it at all
    No I agree that could happen, but not giving the extra £100 100% guarantees it won't be spent on them!
     
    Redhelen, Jul 5, 2024 at 10:12 AM
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    The only thing is that if Reform hadn't targeted Tory seats it could possibly meant a Reform/Tory coalition?
     
    sadbrewer, Jul 5, 2024 at 10:40 AM
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    Possible I guess. Voting patterns would be far from identically replicated in a PR election. But overall I still think it's far more likely that a progressive block would win.
     
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    All cases are not exactly the same. But I’ve seen this put people into financial difficulty through no fault of their own. And when saying that, I mean that they now have to fund two households from a wage that struggles with one. Whilst the other party in the deal does nothing but makes contact with the child as difficult as possible.
     
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