QPR's debt is £177million

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board ARCHIVE' started by Jack Tatty, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. Whi

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    Wrong. We've had threads discussing the obscenity of the losses/debts accumulated by these clubs. Nobody has told them how to do business. For starters, this is a Barnsley forum and so I doubt the likes of Fernandes and the Glazers are reading, and neither do I think there's anyone daft enough (except maybe one person) on here to assume these type of people read the BBS.
     
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    QPR are in a *lot* of danger. Just because the owners have massive personal fortunes does not mean that they are willing to continue funding a venture that loses so much money. At some point they *could* just close the club down and sell the remaining assets to recoup as much money as they possibly can. I imagine Loftus Road would make a fair amount of money as a bulding site.

    One day, one of these rich owners will do just that. They are hard-nosed businesmen and money means a lot more to them than the history and fans of any football club.
     
  3. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Who the **** do you think you are?
     
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    I'm presuming you talk ***** to get a response as no one can actually walk and talk and breathe and be that stupid.

    The level of losses at many football clubs is unsustainable. Rich foreign businessmen often get into football as a vanity project. However as you say they are hard nosed businessmen who at some point will think **** this and walk away. Football is not treated as a business. What business losing £65 million quid would think what we need to do is spend another 10 million quid on assets that may or may not be successful. I'm a freelance economic researcher I can tell you now no business losing £65 million quid a year is sustainable.

    The insanity of this approach is why Barnsley are perpetually in danger of relegation. And no amount of saying Danny should play 4-5-1 or 5-3-2 will help whilst football is screwed up and skewed in this way.

    Love Barnsley hate football.
     
  5. Jack Tatty

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This
     
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    I disagree. There's been plenty posts about the clubs in question on here. However, the posts have not questioned the business acumen of the respective owners but rather expressed disapproval with how this effects football in general. How does the influx of billionaire sugar daddy's help the English national team, grass roots football (Championship football for that matter) the fans, ticket prices etc etc etc. The answer is, it doesn't.

    You're right though, they are highly successful businessmen and these football clubs are in the public domain, so it's completely their prerogative to buy and run the clubs as they see fit. The fans will probably enjoy it as well so long as things are going well and have no qualms about being a rich mans play thing. However, some of us remain sceptical about the intentions of these billionaires and folk should be careful what they wish for because for every Man City there's usually a Portsmouth.
     
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    Once again Hemsworth shows everyone how clueless and naive he is. He never disappoints.
     
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    Totally agree.
    As more and more foreign owners whose interest is money rather than football have come into the game the standing of the England football team has declined.
    And Leeds are sleep-walking into a disaster....not that I'm losing sleep about that!
     
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    You are doing this on purpose, you are a WUM. It is official.
     
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    Right. We're getting somewhere. From now on we're all only allowed to post about things that we really know about, from personal experience. Should be good on here from now on.
     
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    Here you go Hemmsy... A simplified version for you.

    A man, lets call him Phillippe, has a weekly allowance of £250
    He pays £100 to his Mum in rent.
    He spends £30 a week on watching football
    £30 a week on burgers and other fast food
    He spends £40 a week on sky sports subscriptions
    He spends £20 a week on mobile phone
    He spends £20 a week on transport
    He has £10 left over for odds and ends.

    He then decides he wants to buy a Ferrari on a pay monthly basis. So he borrows £800 a month off his extremely rich mate.
    He's happy as can be. Got everything he wants.
    He can show off to all his mates. He's got a better car than they have.

    Two years down the line, his mate decides he doesn't want to loan this money any more. There's no sign of anything coming back in, and there's no return on the money. In fact the Ferrari is worth less now.
    He decides to stop all payments, and he wants his money back.
    Phillippe has no money left. In fact he hasn't saved a penny. Phillippe is as you might say "up **** creek without a paddle".
     
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    Brilliant. Now all we need is BFC Dave's input into your example. Or Mr Micawber's.
     
  13. Jack Tatty

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    £40 a week on sky sports subscriptions?


    No wonder "Wayne" got his pay rise.

    All down to you Philippe.
     
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    Includes 24/7 livecam to Man Utd TV, Wayne Rooney TV, Jack Wilshire TV, Highlights of Robbie Savage in Strictly, Reuben Noble Lazarus via Skype (connection a bit dodgy) and Talksport on surround sound in any room of the house. Comes with free World Cup sticker book, and a copy of "My great Business Moves" by Roman Abramovic. Bargain. You have to opt out of the " Football greats of the 1990s" offer though.
     
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    The sticker book is only free because it is a factory seconds. Apparently it's missing the german teams page
     
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    And the adhesive for Oxlaide Chamberlain is faulty, you have to lick the reverse side to stick it on.
     
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    Phil's right to be fair they are excellent businessmen as the money from their own fortunes will be very little, even what is loaned to a club by them will be rammed with charges and interest so essentially expanding on their little investments.

    Most of the debt and money borrowed is from loans that are secured against future tv revenue, a player, the stadium, future season ticket sales.

    Basically on everything but their own actual financial interests.

    Should one of these clubs go tits up they'll walk away smiling along with the players and the people who suffer yet again are small business and the life blood of a club. It's fans.
     

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