Question for those that think asylum seekers should have to settle in the closest safe country

He wasn't deported because the asylum system has been systematically underfunded for 14 years - this was deliberate policy introduced by Cameron/May and continued to Sunak/Cleverley. It was only a matter of time before he - or one of the others - committed a newsworthy crime. It didn't matter who committed it - as it would never hurt the politicians making the decision, but it *could* win them votes and get people angry about it.

There is also the opportunity to deport asylum seekers who commit crimes - this is down to the Home Office, and a failure of the Home Secretary of the time - either Amber Rudd or Sajid Javid depending on when the court case finished.

 

Nail. Head. Its the tory/reform playbook. Create a problem, make people angry about said problem, convince people you’re the only ones that can fix the problem.

Rinse and repeat

 

He wasn't deported because the system let's him appeal 2 or 3 times after his 1st asylum claim is rejected. System is a absolute joke he's not the 1st won't be the last.
And the problem with this thread on asylum seekers is your assuming everyone who crosses the border is fleeing because of danger. Some just come in search of a better life.

 

No the problem is you are assuming those in greatest need are all criminals.

 

Not really. That's like saying the left assuming anyone opposed to mass immigration is racist

 

the evidence of your posts suggests otherwise

 

My simple view is...Fix the broken system
(no not easy) then correctly assess people for asylum claims. If they fail they get one appeal which must raise issues not heard the first time of appeal..Then if the 2nd appeal fails we return them to their original country but we must be able to justify refusal..

 

My original post was to wakey reds post which was never answered asking do you think asylum seekers who have been denied asylum in multiple European countries should be able to come here and have another go?

 

please don’t edit your posts after I’ve replied. You can jazz up your answers however you like it’s clear to see your opinion in the matter.

 

What is my opinion then go on?

 

Who cares if people come in search of a better life? Good luck to them. They're people. Just because they were born in a **** area of the planet doesn't make them less worthy.

 

I'm glad my ancestors did.

 

Yep more the merrier.

 

Hardly a surprising view considering he thinks people in Africa communicate via smoke signals

 

That was completely taken out of context and even fonzie knows that.

 

I get why people would travel for a better life problem is our schools are over crowded, prisons at breaking point, nhs over run, a ageing population something has to give.

 

One of things Blair and Brown got right , home office dispersal centres around the country with funding to Local Authorities to provide teams to house and advise refugees helping them with the system . There was one at Monk Bretton , and yes actual deportations of failed applicants . Tories brought G4 and the like into managing the system closing the dispersal centres Asylum teams disbanded by LA’s , ending with the hotel situation and no real effort to get people through the system because the big corporations are making a fortune doing FA

 

The absolute bstards.

 

G4 are the catalyst for any system you want to fail.

 

The counter argument is that immigrants are very rarely elderly and can hugely contribute to society, paying tax, bringing down the populations average age, funding and working in the NHS, paying taxes towards prisons etc.

Obviously we need to invest in a system that works and need to be sensible on numbers. A functioning immigration system can and should be a huge benefit to a country.