Questions re West Stand refurbishment/renewal

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  1. JLWBigLil

    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    Spot on, Dave

    Assuming the club's long term aim is to get back into the Premier League, then that side of the ground has to be developed. One would assume, though, that the monies required for such a project will have to come from our exceptionally generous benefactor.
     
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    RE: absolutely...I am a trditionalist...entry at the Half way line is better

    I'm for the tunnel along the halfway line too. Never liked the players coming out at the North Stand - especially when the away team has a decent following.
     
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    Maybe not....if it's built in partnership...

    Headingley Carnegie Stadium had a new stand built in partnership with Leeds Met. The outside of the stand is just a stand. Inside it there are classrooms and lecture theatres, one of which becomes the executive suite during match days......now there's a thought.....
     
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    RE: absolutely...I am a trditionalist...entry at the Half way line is better

    When Wednesday get North and West Stand. Thats' bad for our players (on our own turf) to come out to Wednesday ite's ! Not good practise is it, really?
     
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    Would it not be more intimidating for the away players to come out in the middle of the home fans. one more reason for fortress Oakwell.
    + a bigger area better set out for the boxes = more money into the Club for big Games.
    What happens if you don't modernise -eventually get left behind.
    Better Facilities in the stand . including the toilet issues and Refreshments ,possibly a bar.
    Purse strings are not endless though ,new players cost money ,successsfull teams do not always come cheap.
     
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    Brilliant idea

    Nice one, Stuart.
     
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    We used a lot of the Ashley Ward money on the North Stand and look what happened a couple of years later - administration. That money would have been much better spent stopping us getting into that pickle. I'd agree to doing it now if we got a sizeable grant and our costs were minimal. Or we could renovate on the cheap. Otherwise the money is better spent on the team and keeping us afloat as a business.
     
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    Football Foundation offer money for development of grounds ,dependant on the club paying a set percentage of costs towards the new stand .Do not know how much!
     
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    redeveloping the West Stand now would be a wate of money

    trying to pre-empt a rise in demand for tickets would be too hit and miss, if the team is to get back to the Prem then, as we will never be able to match other teams finances outright, we will have to do it the same way we did it last time. That was slowly building by remaining in the division for 18 consecutive seasons, we should use any money to achieve this and maintain financial stability.

    also, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the stand, just because it's not luxury doesn't mean it is unacceptable. There are plenty of grounds with restricted views and the view from the West Upper is ok anyway. As long as the costs of maintainance are not overly high, and why should there be as it's so simple there's nothing to maintain, there is no reason to consider redeveloping.
     
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    The worst aspects of the West Stand are:

    Getting wet on the West Lower
    Pillars obstructing the view from the West Upper
    Toilets open to the elements

    Answer:

    Re-roof the chuff and build some indoor bogs.
     
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    RE: redeveloping the West Stand now would be a wate of money

    Nothing fundamentally wrong? It's obviously costing a fortune for it to retain its safety certificate.
     
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    Build it, and they will come

    Allegedly.....
     
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    how can it be?

    what do they have to do from one year to the next?

    it's roof supports are solid metal that's lasted a hundred years it surely doesn't need that much doing. The rest is brick that's lasted just as long and is probably stronger than the sheet metal that clads the other stands. Other than a bit of work on the wood I can't see a lot of money being required.

    if someone can tell me what this massive amount of money is being spent on then maybe it will be more viable in the long run for a new stand but I just can't see where a lot of money is needed
     
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    Maybe...

    ...there's still some money sloshing around in the fund that is currently paying a certain architect and developers a sizeable wedge for the redevelopment of the town centre. Would have to be green, blue and yellow though!
     
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    If anyone could point me in the direction

    of anything near serious refurbisment that has been undertaken to the west stand since the access to the terrace was installed I'd be very interested in what and startled to say the least. On odd few quid here and there but I doubt we are talking Dwayne Mattis fees.

    Nevertheless it would not surprise me in the least if we had not been given some sort of ultimatum from the licensing authorities as to the "sell by date" of the stand..ie. date beyond which it will not get a safety certificate.

    Its got to go sooner or later and I'd be surprised if it lasted another 2 seasons depending on us retaining championship status. A multipurpose stand would be the most likely developement, maybe the size of the east stand. Depends I suppose on how much funding could be gained from the football trust, the council or other funding.

    I was very surprised to see PNE's new stand was costing 9m for a mere 4000 seats..it looked pretty **** to me for the money.
     
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    RE: If anyone could point me in the direction

    Maximum Grant from the Football Foundation - £2M.

    Maybe Steve Houghton has a few ideas about how it could be incorporated in the current redevelopment of Barnsley.
     
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    Parnership is the answer

    Preston's new stand is not costing them a penny.

    When built, it will house the HQ of North Lancs NHS Trust. The money they will receive from this will furnish interest and capital on the building costs. The away stand at preston houses a fitness club, and another the National football museum.

    Now, Barnsley MBC have recently moved into Westgate Plaza 1 - I wonder why it is called Plaza 1? From what I hear, Plaza 2 will be built on the site of John Rideal House.

    Wouldn't it make sense to have these new offices built into the West Stand?
     

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