Racism on here

The Celts and the ancient Britons are immigrants just the same as the rest of us. Trace your family back far enough and you'll eventually find a direct line to someone born in Africa. Trace it back even further and you'll find that your great, great, great... grandmother was an amoeba.

I reckon for some it's only about 5 generations.

 

Aye to quote Ali G "iz it be is I iz black".

 

Cheers I'd forgotten the Bell and Machin report.

 

Looks at crime and migration.

http://cep.lse.ac.uk/seminarpapers/02-02-10-BB.pdf

 

before I take the time to read it,does it suggest that the amount of immigrants in our prison is down to the fact that there arnt enough immigrants sitting as judges.?

 

It's a report that looks at whether immigrants are more or less likely to statistically similar to non immigrants when it comes to criminality. It determines that there is no statistical anomalies and therefore you would expect the prison population to reflect statistically the composition of society would you not? Of course there is no easy answer to this whether its institutionalised racism or not I'm not qualified yo say.

 

Always good to see 'racial equalities people' being used as an insult. Horrible b@stards eh, thinking people shouldn't be discriminated against because of their race.

 

i don't think the amount of immigrants in our prisons is down to institutionalised racism,not in this day and age,after all according to some posts on here over the last day or two, our justice system is held in high regard throughout the world.I honestly think,because of this,its down to the fact that these people have commited the crimes.
Its interesting that you are indirectly questioning whether there is institutionalised racism going on based on a report from the LSE which in my opinion has always had a leftie bias to it.

In this day and age,especially on here its hard to question anything from the left without appearing to come across as a racist,i can rest assure you that I'm not,my background politically was well left of centre.most of my lecturers at the tech had all done studies thru LSE as had a lot of our top union men.However I'm not the type of person to look for excuses either and saying that there isn't a big enough percentage of immigrants in our judicial system is just another excuse to take some of the blame away from those who are locked up.

 

show me where i have insulted the race equalities.

 

Hykeham, I for one have got the utmost respect for all our forces personel, past and present. You and your comrades do a wonderfull job, you are asked to give your all for your country and do on a regular basis then usually get treated like **** by the very people that ask you to give that all. I've posted before that I am at an age that when I started work, I worked with guys that had fought in the war and whilst they very rarely talked about the bad times it was obvious how bad war is and humbling to realise what these guys had gone through, when they did reveal a few snippets. So Hykeham, hold your head high and proud and ignore what I'm sure is only a very vocal but small minority of idiotic bigots.

 

I love well cooked burgers so I guess I am.

 

Thanks for that and your dead right. I have been proud to serve the last 23 years of my life and will continue to do so as long as i wear a blue suit :smile:

 

I second all that.

 

To an extent you are obviously right. They have done the crime they should do the time. The question remains why if Immigrations are statistically no more or less likely to commit crimes than anyone else are we more adept at catching them. I don't think there's a straightforward answer myself. Racism will play a part whether it's stop and search powers that clearly target sections of the community or less obvious ones. There are clearly other reasons peer pressure, education, economic and social deprivation.

Did my masters at LSE in the early 90s certainly not particularly left leaning then more centrist where I think it remains.

 

This is what we have to look forward to come January 2014. Fine, upstanding people that any country would be desperate to call its' own.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23431160

 

I reckon the makeup of the judiciary is a reason. Everyone has subconscious prejudices and as an almost exclusively white, middle class group of people judges will tend to have some similar prejudices, whether conscious or not.

There was a study of over 1,000 parole hearings where it was found that judges were significantly more likely to grant parole in the period just after breakfast or lunch. It shows that there may be factors prejudicing someone's decision even if they are not consciously aware of them.

 

I'll third all that

If that makes sense.

 

My Great Grandad was from Birmingham. I think I've more to be aggrieved about that anyone.

 

Explains a lot.

 

That's not very PC Jay.