Reading through Plymouth Forum

I do apologise, I thought your response to nightmare was about Plymouth.

Still think you are a miserable person tho

 

sorry but League one is now our level

I agree the stats show our championship( 2nd tier) pedigree. But that's gonna vastly change now. Its called MONEY, we have nor cannot attract an investor with any really decent amounts of cash. Thanks to the likes of SKY tv and the creation of the Premier league... we are now doomed to mediocrity. But I will say this, I would be happy if we became a third tier club of quality than NO club at all. Ask the fans of Darlington and Scarboro about that. Also ask the fans of Accrington Stanley and Newport too, they know how it feels

 

A few things to pick you up on, i never said i wanted to be called Yorkshire Tykes or such like i believe that was Young Nudger, however i have said i like having the Yorkshire Rose as a club crest . as for our stadium i think Oakwell is one of the best grounds around, but i hate seeing it half full i'd rather have a new smaller ground that we can fill and get rocking, and the reason i say that is because i have no faith what so ever in us ever been able to fill it as it is now, i think it was made far too big for our own good, a smaller more intimidating ground would be of a much bigger benefit to us, as for the comment of rather finishing in the top 6/8 of league one and never going up i still stand by that, don't get me wrong i'd like us to play in the premier league but its never going to happen, finishing 4th5th6th bottom in the premier league for 8 season would mean your well run earning millions and millions of pounds to keep investing in the club trying to improve season on season, and playing against the best teams and players in the world, doing that in the championship is depressing we where never going to improve as a club when everything about the club was geared up at penny pinching and survival, now we're in league one i can honestly see the club and it's fans having something to cheer about in the next couple of seasons, play offs promotion or something even if its just a trip to wembley in the LDV its better then what we've just had for the last 5 years, i worded it wrong about fans being ashamed of the club, i didn't mean it like that, i ment more the situation the club is in, and as been for years, and never looked like getting out of. I love the club and always have, but i don't go shouting from the roof tops that i'm a Tarn fan because its nothing to be proud of at the moment, i want to be proud of the club, i want something to shout about. and thats the reason i wanted us to go down, because as hard as i tried i just couldn't be proud of struggling to survive every season.

 

Fair enough, squire.

I'm sure we're all frustrated at football in general.

But if we could somehow get our house in order off the pitch, do everything that Ben and Patrick (in the past) have preached about, then we could flourish in the division above once more. Act small time, think small time, be small time.

I'm not expecting us to act like Leeds or owt, but I'd like us to at least act like the big club we are in this division. Lets ruffle feathers.

 

You've summed up my feelings exactly.

 

Does that make me a miserable basterd as well then?

 

Maybe. I don't see myself as being miserable. I just say things as I see them and I think the club should be performing much better in all areas. As a long term season ticket holder I'm going to say exactly what I think.

 

I was pillocking thi. I don't think you're miserable. It's just the BBS in general.

 

i don't believe we could have ever got our house in order wile in the Championship, everything about the club was negative, hoping for survival and seeing that and being self sufficient as an achievement, was never going to lay the foundation for a top half finish and improvement season on season, we became stagnant and i honestly believe the only way to stop the rot was to take the hit of relegation and rebuild. i think we could come back stronger then we have been for years but i also think that their is going to be a level we just can't get past no matter how we perform off the field and if that proves to be a championship relegation battle year after year i'd much rather be a top 6 league one side failing in the play off winning quite a lot of games then scrapping all the time

 

I know. I'm a reight laugh in real life.

 

Keith Hill once intimated that. The BBS wanted his throat.

 

Pasoti is amazing at minute they've got us down as being on a par with teams like Barnet & Bristol Rovers way their talking. Ha ha ha ha

 

Football fans are the same anywhere. Even, yes even, on here believe it or not!

 

Simple fact is when a club wins games everything else looks fine. When they don't, everything with the club is wrong. Note how different things looked before, during and after Flitcroft.

Anyhow, im looking forward to next season. New players, fresh start, young lads getting a game, we might even win some!

 

Their fans on twitter are even worse. We're the smallest club in England apparently. Barnsley the place is the worst in England. They can't believe we've the audacity to even bid for an Argyle player.

I called them an irrelevance, a nothing club -in response and a lad sent me a clip of them beating us in 2010 saying "this is who we are". It's at times like this that relegation truly hits home. Having to contend with yokels from backwater clubs with no fans or history. Which merely makes me even more determined to be the most arrogant basterd ever this season. I'm turning 'Wednesdeh' mode on. Full on deluded arrogance.

 

Thanks for selling us your best player.

It still doesn't make up for you cheating us out of our biggest away win in nine years, though.

Enjoy the fourth division. Again. Lol.

 

It's bizarre, I've just read through it and they've got a reyt chip on their shoulder. Not saying we're a massive club or a great pull or owt, but if they can't see why he wanted to move to a higher division club they're mongs.

 

Great signing got not surprised that the Plymouth fans are having a whinge about losing their best player.


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Argyle fan here.

You guys should take it as a compliment that a lot of our supporters feel underwhelmed with this transfer.

It is partly out of lack of respect for Barnsley admittedly, but also our high valuation of the player himself.

With regards to the latter, Hourihane has strong potential and it would have been nice to lose him to a club like Wolves, or Leeds, or Birmingham. Regular 20,000 - 30,000 attendances and the opportunity for a shot at Premier League football in 5 years time. It was a move I for one thought he was capable of, perhaps not now but definitely next summer. But he decided to snatch at the first club that came in which was a little disappointing.

In terms of a 'sideways step', why do you consider yourselves such a big club as to find that laughable? If Argyle were in the Championship and took one of your best players now for the price of £90k (or whatever it is) you'd probably be equally as underwhelmed. "Plymouth - with their lack of history, and attendances of 13,000? Why is he going there??". You want your best players to leave for genuinely bigger clubs, to fulfil potential they can't with you.

Argyle have signed well already this summer. Lee Cox, Carl McHugh and Peter Hartley are proven and respected League One level players. We fought off Bristol City and Portsmouth to sign Reuben Reid, who scored 21 goals at our level last season - a minor, if not totally unsurprising coup, and signed McCormick to a two year deal, who is essentially a top League One level keeper at even the most modest valuation. Our squad was looking in top shape for a promotion assault, before this news rocked us - which hasn't gone down well at all - but the point was going to be - if we were to go up next season, and you didn't - would there really be that much between our clubs? I wouldn't reckon so, and that is the point many have in mind with the 'sideways step' comments.

With regards to our board of directors, this news has gone down like a lead balloon. The fee quoted is miserly, plain and simple, and I thought we were above letting our players go for peanuts after the vultures stripped our squad during administration. Hopefully Barnsley will play their part and make a top player of him, sell him for millions, and make the deal worthwhile with our add on clauses.

With regards to the player, he really is a class act. I read another Argyle fan advised your post he is 'inconsistent'. What utter tosh. He was one of our most consistent players this season. In fact he can play too conservatively at times, but Sheridan managed to drill that mentality out of him - to play driving forward, rather than sideways or backwards, as he so often used to do. He has a sweet left foot and will rifle goals in from 30 - 18 yards. Can take a good free kick, and has a solid range of passing with very few sloppy passes. His one outstanding ability however is his interception work - he can time a slide tackle like a metronome to retrieve possession, and will do time and time again. No opposition midfielder can rest easily with Hourihane around his heels.

As for Argyle, the challenge is on to replace our midfield dynamo with someone of equal stature, which is nigh on impossible. There are players equally as capable as Hourihane about, but a 23 year old with his ability was a much better asset for the club than a 31 year old on their 6th club. A genuine sad day for Argyle that this terrific young player has departed, with the feeling that Argyle have not really got much out of the deal.

Best of luck for the season - will keep an eye out for your results.