Really Dissapointed today Barnsley and Simon Davey

It's for anyone who knows....

I bet it's not gonna be pleasant! ROFL..... no, can't even get close.

 

RE: You uneducated fool.

Explain to me the difference between shouting 'scab' and 'dee-dar' and how one ruins your enjoyment and the other doesn't?

 

RE: It's for anyone who knows....

Roll on the floor laughing.

 

RE: It's for anyone who knows....

Feckin ell.. what a disappointment..it's far too polite this board!!!

 

The reply might surprise you.

Firstly I'm not one for shouting abuse at football matches generally.

Secondly, I have a massive amount of respect for the miners - I think that the whole conflict had a hideous sweeping impact on families across the country. Not just Barnsley, but in all the regions affected. I can see no sense in miners from Barnsley still shouting 'scabs' at miners from Nottingham, when actually the battle is lost. If anyone deserves to be chanted at (if anyone) - it's Thatcher - but not at a football match.

Dee-dah and Dingle and Pikey and all that is just shallow name calling. 'Scabs' resonates far deeper than that, and the significance is cheapened by rolling it out at a football match as just more generic abuse as so many ten year old and teenagers were doing today. Out of respect for what happened during the strike, it should be put to bed. You speak of still feeling bitter - you should agree with me in saying that it is indeed a very jagged term, it's a horrible chant. I'm sorry if you're still carrying that bitterness (genuinely I am).

I take your point - abuse is a subjective thing. It's in the ear of the person who hears it, not in the voice of the person who chants it. In good humour I will give and take the dingle/deedah thing, I just don't see it in the same league. If getting rid of people shouting 'Scabs', meant that the chants of 'deedah' had to stop too, so be it - it would be no loss to me at all. When the deedah chants are venomous and vindictive, I don't enjoy being around them and they take the edge off my enjoyment too.

By the way - the chanting doesn't 'ruin' my enjoyment, but let's be reasonable, it does spoil things a bit.

 

RE: It's for anyone who knows....

Sorry... I've tried to think up an alternative that abusive, but I'm rubbish at working those things out.

 

Spot on BRF!

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RE: You a 50 year old man, not 18!

Im all for live and let live but in youre case I can see that maybe theres a flaw in my thinking

 

RE: The reply might surprise you.

Glad to see my question provoked a more thoughtful and respectful response than hitherto.

Don't know how old you are. Were you one of the men in blue on the picket lines? If so was it true that many of them were army personnel?

 

RE: The reply might surprise you.

Listen - if I've been disrespectful to you, I apologise. We both feel strongly about this - and some of the kids are just making fun of it. Sorry if I put you in that bag by mistake.

I'm only 30, so I was only a kid when the strike was on - but it shaped some of the earliest memories I had. My dad took enough time to explain it to me as I was growing up and I saw the effect it had on Wombwell first hand. Clearly, I wasn't a bobby on the front line.

I've heard the rumours that army personnel were used on the lines, and I know a lot of southern bobbies that were shipped up to the strikes. The rationale was they were doing 'mutual aid' for other forces. Personally I believe that the rationale was that they put police men in that would have less empathy with the communities affected. I've heard stuff about what the officers from the London Met were doing that has genuinely made me feel sick. I think there is a lot of shame and regret there.

 

Scargill is a ****** ...well they werent far wrong were they?

 

depends who you ask. but you get my point.

i was more personally annoyed when they wa singing 'sit down shut up' to the 'stand up for iain hume'