Reform strongly predicted to win Barnsley North and Barnsley South

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  1. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.
    Sky news published the exit polls not social.media or rumour. Conducted by IPSOS on skys behalf.
     
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    Id been warned about the utter meltdown on here last night, Crikey its laughable.
    By all means have an opinion, but at the very least, wait and base it on FACT ( otherwise we become TRUMP and BORIS ESC).
    Jumped the Gun, Horse as bolted spring to mind.
    I'm still disappointed 20k+ of my fellow brethren voted Retard, sorry reform, and its bloody worrying why the town I love feels this way.
    Labour need to address this underlying disconnect.
    I do kinda get it From Barnsley south, as surrounding Hoyland With Industrial Tin Cans, is poor.
    For all the good Sir Steve's done, Market kitchen, Town Centre renovation, New bridge etc, having tin can monstrosity's on your door step, ( EVRI and other buildings) that's a hard one to take.
    I don't know the best way to approach this, as brighter people than me have possible tried to address it.

    I voted Labour, I'm not too enamored with Starmer, 9.6 million votes, I wasn't over keen on Corbyn 10.2 million votes although I did favor his policy's more than Starmers.

    But I live in hope, that labour will be better than this utter Shower that's been in power over last 14years.
    I'm full of dread writing this, as I fear the task in hand is too great, for any party to make any difference in the short term.

    sorry this is a bit rushed, hard at graft
     
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  3. only1kp

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    Your right it wasn't a rumour.
    Turns out in relation to barnsley north/south it was complete bull ****
     
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    To be fair to me and others who posted perhaps even more strongly, this wasn’t based on rumour or some conspiracy theory, it was off the back of the Ipsos Mori exit poll - which historically has been pretty accurate in general elections. And they weren’t just suggesting Reform had a chance, it was suggested they were 98% and 99% likely to take the Barnsley North and South seats.

    Thankfully they were very wrong.

    But it wasn’t that people posted with no reason.

    If you look at the voting numbers, the Lib Dem’s got over 70 seats having accrued less of the popular vote than reform who got four (possibly five when they’ve finished recounts). It is a little skewed.

    I’m pleased the exit poll was wrong and pleased the people of Barnsley didn’t elect a reform candidate - but I am concerned at the number of people that tried to.
     
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    You're being completely disingenuous. The exit polls are highly scientific, but there is a margin of error. The smaller the party in number of votes, the greater that margin of error. Hence the inaccurate forecast for Reform.
     
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    2 points here, firstly, what would a candidate have to say to put you off voting for them? if that didn't discourage you **** me!!! & secondly, Farage has the Johnson teflon coating as he ambles through politics delivering a Brexit which future generations will examine in disbelief that a country would impose economic sanctions against itself while he does his best to distance himself from it & sets up protest parties to suit his evil agenda's, the man is a menace.
     
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    What is next but one for Farage? He'll go for electoral reform next, but what then? What does he really want?
     
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    Aryan race
     
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    Attention.
     
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    3 conversations held today

    1: Some people will vote for owt. At least Farage stood up to the p***'s

    2: More boats coming over after this. More darkies to put up with.

    3. Selfish youth voting for labour. It's ok for them they get everything given to them now but we don't, we can only just afford to eat because all the money goes to the Muslims and foreigners there's nothing left for us pensioners.

    Sadly 2 out of 3 of those conversations were with family members.
    Conversation 3 was with someone who isnt technically even a pensioner, they took early retirement because theyre so well off and between them and their partner have private pension incomes totalling just under 4000 pound a month, have a mortgage free detached home in a nice area and a mortgage free holiday home by the coast and own two cars. Oh aye, really struggling
     
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    I saw a meme posted today about Starmer with the words "Come Along Vera, you'll have to move out, we've got people from Calais Waiting for this house". It's just so wrong that people share this junk....

    - 1) Labour isn't doing this
    - 2) Bedroom Tax - TORIES
    - 3) The person posting it needs Labour more than any other major party.
    -- 4) The capital W in "Waiting"
     
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    Ban any Political Party that has an ‘Owner’ I mean how can that be democratic? Even Putin doesn’t own the ‘Party’ he represents ;)
     
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    Aye, let's ignore the triple lock. Don't know many folk of working age that got pay rises that matched it.
     
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    But taking that into consideration, it's clearly ridiculous to claim that you have a 98% probability of being correct. That's just obviously nonsense.
     
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    It was, but by only exit polling in 130 constituencies, as Barnsley showed, their work is not detailed enough. They should have quintupled their pollsters and had at least one in every constituency. It still wouldn't have been perfect but it would have been a lot closer to the truth.
     
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    Not sure pollsters in constituencies is the issue. Pollsters at each polling station in a constituancy would be more accurate. I would love an investigation into how their survey actually took place. For example I'm in barnsley north. How many polling stations were there. For that one constituancy. ?
     
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    I totally agree, that would be as close to perfection as you can get, but we would be looking at many thousands of pollsters on site.
     
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    There's a lot of people on this thread that need to take a long hard look at themselves. The people from Barnsley that are riddled with self-loathing. The people from outside of Barnsley that claim to be Barnsley fans, yet couldn't wait to wade into the town at the first opportunity.

    There are some seriously disingenuous mother feckers on here, masquerading as pseudo-intellectuals.

    If you have such thinly-veiled disgust and repugnance for this town and its people, then maybe, just maybe, you are the issue.

    I'm disgusted by the vitriol directed at Barnsley and its people on this message board.
     
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    30% of Barnsley North voted for a man that said "Black people need to get off their lazy arses and stop behaving like savages"
    33% of Barnsley South voted for a man that made his money in a dodgy cryptocurrency ponzi scheme, while failing to pay his council tax.

    These numbers are a black mark against the town and the imbeciles that voted for them deserve to be called out as what they are.
     
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    Black people need to get off their lazy arses and stop being savages.

    Brings a tear to the eye, makes me really proud.
     
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