Religion of peace at it again

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  1. Eaststand Lower

    Eaststand Lower Well-Known Member

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    You obviously need a life/girlfriend
     
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    Ancient text at that. Before cars, computers, bombs, football were all a thing. Back when a woman was practically a slave to men. And so you'd be properly mental to live your life through such text. But if you did, to the letter, you'd be living a funny old life. One bit of text telling you that to kill one human is to kill all humanity. In other words, it's a sin, don't do it. Then read a bit of text telling you to murder disbelievers. The Koran, the Bible, ancient text that have been translated hundreds of times in many languages, doctored no doubt and like anything passed down a line of people (especially over thousands of years) all text is likely to have been exaggerated, or even made up.

    And as I said yesterday, I say that as a Christian. Or at least, in my own way I am. I suppose that makes me as bad as the evil ******* who are doing Islam in their own way.
     
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    Mike Lowry Well-Known Member

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    You're struggling. I'd give it up.
     
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    That's a bit pathetic and childish isn't it?

    I do have both, so don't worry.

    Thanks for your concern though Mr Fun.
     
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    Exile Well-Known Member

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    I'm not aware that Muslims are a race, so the accusation you're throwing about is as non sequitur as it is invented.

    PS - No apostrophe in Neo-Nazis. Ta-ra.
     
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    Like saying that Muslims who don't take part in Jihad are "hypocrites" and not as devout as those who do.

    Like "make unending war against the unbelievers".

    And of course the whole "72 virgins waiting in heaven for martyrs" which inspires the suicide bombers.
     
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    So you think every Muslim follows the Quran this way?

    If you think taking things out of context works then in the Bible it says, "For if the women goes bare headed in public behead her"

    Of course what you've said above is valid, and is being used for propaganda to radicalize people.

    Saying that if people had invaded, and dropped bombs on my land, I'd probably want revenge.

    'One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.'

    It's easy to buy into the media, and the damning of Islam, but you must imagine what it would be like to have the shoe on the other foot?

    Imagine you've had Western governments killing your people for profit...

    I don't see any positives from the ongoing conflict, on either side, obviously I wish it would all stop, and that we could live in some sort of peace.

    We must ask the following though:

    . Why have Western governments armed and supported radical groups in the past, and have continued to do so?
    . Why did we go into war with Iraq on false pretense, the same country we had been shaking hands with a decade earlier?
    . Why do our media, and government cover up/play down the what happens in Palestine on a daily basis?

    The facts are available online, if you want to look into the above.

    Study, hear all sides, and then believe whatever you want to do so, it is a 'free country' after all...

    Peace & Love.
     
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    So according to you it is all down to the Western powers "killing people for profit". Many of these countries had internal wars e.g. Sunni vs Shi-ite long before Western powers ever became involved, Afghanistan has always been tribal with warlords vying for power and ordinary people suffering. Africa is the same.

    You sound like an apologist for all the atrocities being carried out by "freedom fighters??" As a matter of course the Western countries do not target women and children, carry out genocide crucifixions, beheadings etc in the name of religion. Nor do they have an avowed intent to "destroy all infidels".

    Yes, situations like Palestine DO raise serious moral questions but the last time I looked the only people blowing themselves up, targeting and rounding up men women and children and committing mass murder are these fanatics. In any case "Western Governments killing for profit" doesn't explain why most of the atrocities being committed by Al-Shabab, IS(IS) etc are Muslim on Muslim.
     
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    Again, I didn't say otherwise.

    Apologist?

    Yes, I never said my freedom fighter? Where did I say that? Oh wait...I didn't.

    The death toll from bombs dropped by western countries is equally disgusting when comparing the carnage they have inflicted in Europe and elsewhere. Yes that includes women and children too. I wish that none of this happened, I'm not choosing a side, just merely observing.

    Well you don't look close enough in regards to Palestine.

    There are serious questions to be asked, you should try looking at both sides of the fence.

    Try and see things from different perspectives.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8TcIxbF_M
     
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    Actually your post stated....

    "Saying that if people had invaded, and dropped bombs on my land, I'd probably want revenge.

    'One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.' "


    That sounds like you are sympathetic to their cause. And revenge is NOT the answer.

    Secondly , " The death toll from bombs dropped by Western Countries is equally disgusting when comparing the carnage inflicted in Europe and elsewhere"

    Really??!!

    The deliberate targeting of women and children and civilians going about their day-to-day business by suicide bombers in Europe and market places etc in Syria, Turkey, etc. is the same as forces trying to minimise collateral damage when targeting terrorists who deliberately station themselves close to civilians. Yes, mistakes are made as happens in war zones and death by accidental strikes or intentional makes no difference to the victims, but comparing the actions of the Western powers to those of ISIS I find extraordinary. Most of the deaths in the middle East are from extremist attacks on Muslims and Christians and Relatively few civilian deaths (although any at all are regrettable to say the least) arise from the bombings. However, as these hit the headlines particularly when hospitals are hit or villages are bombed the hugeb numbers of dead and maimed from ISIS and Al Shabab etc actions are overlooked as they are daily occurrences.

    Do you honestly believe if there had never been any Western interference in the Middle East Afghanistan etc. then it would be a land of milk and honey?

    American foreign policy and previous French, Prussian, British, Dutch Empire builders have a lot to answer for but little to do with the rise of IS and many terrorist organisations such as Al 'Quada
     

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