Resignations?

"Taking the Piss" Mancunian Tyke

Ok so many statements on here have been emotive and over the top but to lump all together and suggest every body is living in cloud cuckoo land is over the top in itself and to denigrate the originator and signatories of the petition by mentioning them in the same sentence as the "resignation" suggestion is out of order. The petition is to draw the attention of the FA and police to the feelings of supporters around the country to this kind of behaviour on the pitch which no one can condone. The message has to get across to players that it is not acceptable somehow.

Your second paragraph is ludicrous and insulting, of course no true supporter wants any of those things, but that paragraph does nothing but belittle the offence and injury to Ian Hume. That offence was not like "every foul" and therefore you can expect unusual reaction to it, as in questions in parliament and legal procedings and emotional responses from those who witnessed it, both live and on TV.

 

RE: It is all getting a bit hysterical.

If I was just larking around, not intending to hurt you, but smashed you in the jaw with my elbow, enough to break your jaw. then I would deservedly be up on a charge and I'd probably be asking myself what the hell was I doing, thinking that smashing you in the face would not injure you.

 

RE: You generally are alone.

Sean Bean certainly.</p>

&quot;Give them a moment for pity's sake!&quot;</p>

WTF was all that about?!
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RE: Agree re some of the more emotional stuff.

I'm not saying they should be immune from prosecution, but as I've posted a few times in recent days, the fact that the incident took place on a sports pitch where both parties were there voluntarily means that it would be very, very, difficult to bring a criminal prosecution against Morgan. The Police know that and so do the CPS, which is why I don't think the criminal law route will be taken either by club or indeed the FA.

Even if it were to go to court, the CPS would downgrade the GBH to ABH or common assault to ensure that the prosecution was successful, and Morgan would walk away with nothing more than a fine of less than £500 even if he was found guilty.

A much more productive route would be for either BFC or Hume to sue Morgan. It would be much easier to win the case (only requires balance of probability to be against Morgan rather than having to be found guilty beyond reasonable doubt in a criminal court) and Morgan could be forced to pay out tens of thousands in compensation rather than a few hundred at a Magistrate's Court.

I respect people are entitled to their views as supporters of BFC and I'm not meaning to come across as being anti-petition and I applaud the effort people have put in but I don't think that it will have any bearing on the legal outcome of this case (if there is even going to be a case).

Get a good lawyer and sue Morgan for the injury caused, time off work, and financial cost to BFC of paying Hume's wages while he is injured. That's the best bet.

 

If you read what I wrote

I didn't say everyone was living in cloud cuckoo land. I said that if we believed they would work miracles (or indeed make any difference at all) then we were living in cloud cuckoo land. I believe eveyone who has signed the petition etc is rightly outraged by Morgan and is entitled to voice their protest.

The police, courts, and FA are all have their own legal procedures and policies and are bound to follow them. It will make no difference whether one BFC fan reports the matter to the police or if 10,000 do, the law and procedure is exactly the same and numbers alone won't make a difference to whether or not the police actually believe a criminal offence has been committed by Morgan. Even if all 19,000 people who were at Oakwell wrote to the the police and told them what they saw they wouldn't bring any extra objective evidence to the case that the police could use to prosecute him.

I would love it if they did lock Morgan up, even if only to question him, but with the law regarding assaults in sport as it is it would be quite difficult to get it to a criminal court.

I'm also not down on people who have had their view and am not taking the piss, but I suspect that if, say, Donny and the Fowls were involved in a similar incident and John Ryan called for the Wednesday board to step down or for the local MP to raise it in Parliament we'd be on their boards taking the piss.

 

I read every post that I reply to very thoroughly Mancunian. No body on the petition has said, "I am signing this expecting a miracle," they are your words. Rather live in cloud cuckoo land than sit on my arse and do nothing land.

 

Then allow me to add

"or indeed anything at all" to "miracles".

Actually I already did in my last post.

 

Get Jessica Fletcher On The Case

She always managed to solve cases before Murder She Wrote had finished.