Revoke A50 Petition

all of europe was under the grip of austerity marlon and as i've said before had we been in the eurozone then it would have been the eu that implemented it here and not our government.

the following link will give you an insight into what was agreed by the eu and its member states, you will soon notice that austerity was implemented by cuts to public services and increases in taxation,the link gives you a country by country list and the measures they agreed with the eu to cut their deficits

https://www.europeaninstitute.org/i...cial-reform/1180-austerity-measures-in-the-eu

have a read of the following link too

https://www.businessinsider.com/austerity-has-damaged-europe-vs-us-gdp-growth-2018-11?r=US&IR=T

 

Stopping the Free Movement of *British* people deeply affects those that need it to live, or work. It is a right that everyone in the UK has from birth, and we are all losing it.

Workers in Germany and France (which are both within the EU) have more rights than workers in the UK (also in the EU). Is that the fault of the EU, or our governments? (I know at least one leaver who argued that it was the EUs fault).

 

how many of the 27 member states have less rights than the uk,france and germany? genuine question as i dont know

this free movement of people hasnt stopped me having to show my passport at folkestone/dover and calais and i'm unsure what negative impact it will have on workers, my mate is a Field Rep/engineer for Joy mining, he has been to every continent except antartica,,he is currently in russia,,he has no difficulty in going anywhere so i see no reason why going across the channel should pose too many problems.

My opinion of the free movement of people is that it was created to ensure the free movement of cheap labour on a massive scale to suit the capitalist eu , more than it was to benefit any individual ,i 'm not saying no-ones benefited from it but i'm not a supporter of it.

I know you were looking at being posted in Germany scoff, so i can genuinely understand your stance on the matter pal.

 

She's lost. Again. Still implying she'll bring it back, the deluded ****

 

I’m replying to the Bit where you said that the Tories wouldn’t be able to erode workers rights because of blocks by labour/ Lib Dem’s etc.
I’m just emphasising that they can.

 

taking away workers rights enshrined in law would need to be passed in the commons and there would be way too much opposition,imo .

whereas austerity got the backing it needed in the commons and when milliband and balls were running the labour party they did actually say they would continue with it.

 

But there’s the problem, you dismiss one as though it can’t happen then accept the other without flinching. It can’t be both!

 

i'm not dismissing it as tho it can't happen and neither am i accepting the other without flinching,what i am saying is that i think it would be highly unlikely that workers rights would be stripped because there would be too much opposition to it in the commons, whereas austerity got through because it had enough support ,

 

The one that struck me was Mandelson " and I say this with all the sincerity that I have"

Can't remember who said but it went like this...

Sincerity is the greatest thing you can have in politics....when you can fake that you've got it made.

 

thanks for that response farnham,

just out out of interest you list 6 countries that have much better working rights than the uk, could you tell me what these extra rights are, maybe its extra hols,maternity/paternity leave etc , i honestly dont know so thats why i ask.

https://www.thelocal.ch/20181220/switzerland-and-uk-forge-post-brexit-citizens-rights-agreement

this article is the first i've read on the uk/swiss deal.

 

workers representation in this country lost its power after we lost the miners strike,

are you sure about france having to pay people for two years if they lay them off,i find it difficult to grasp that companies that lay people off,especially for economic reasons, would be expected to pay them for two years,i've been looking online and cant find anything to back it up,the quote below is copied and pasted from global workplace

– Dismissal indemnity: Employees with at least one year’s service are entitled to receive a minimum dismissal indemnity representing 1/5th of their monthly salary for each year of service for the first ten years, and 1/3rd of their monthly salary for each year of service beyond ten years. However, collective bargaining agreements often provide for more favorable indemnities.

 

ok, no probs

 

have a look at this video,it shows that it is not just parts of the uk that see the eu in a bad light

 

If only she had listened to people when they told her a year ago that this deal wouldn’t get past parliament. She’s kicked the ball into the long grass time and time again.

History won’t be kind to poor old Theresa she should have stuck to running in the wheat fields.

 

When the revoke article 50 petition started a couple of weeks ago I noticed that there was, a couple of lines below it, a petition started six months ago calling for a no deal brexit. It had about 390k signatures.
Now it's virtually impossible to check the revoke 50 petition without noticing the other. Indeed in the last two weeks it's gone up to 590k signatures. So....kudos to the hare brains that want a no deal exit for signing up to it in numbers recently.
The petitions are not a perfect reflection and can only be roughly indicative. However, currently the no deal brexit option is dwarfed by 10 to 1 by those who want to revoke.