Revoke A50 Petition

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Farnham_Red, Mar 21, 2019.

Page 7 of 39
  1. portsmouth tyke

    portsmouth tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    1,981
    Likes Received:
    1,894
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    Those not old enough, jesus wept. I have never heard that mentioned before whether it be local elections, general elections etc.
    The legal age to vote is 18, to suggest it's wrong because somebody at 15 at the time didn't have a say is laughable at best.
     
    portsmouth tyke, Mar 21, 2019
    #121
    dekparker likes this.
  2. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,948
    Likes Received:
    836
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    In an election you choose a candidate. If elected they serve for a period of time and then stand for election again at which point you can change your mind. Not really the same thing is it ?
     
    BFC Dave, Mar 21, 2019
    #122
    BBBFC and ScubaTyke like this.
  3. Old

    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    4,422
    Likes Received:
    4,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It was bent.
     
    Old Gimmer, Mar 21, 2019
    #123
    anstonred likes this.
  4. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    6,603
    Likes Received:
    4,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Urine Extraction Technician
    Location:
    Elsecar By The Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Didn't suggest changing it, just pointed out that they will be the ones that have to live with the consequences for their entire working lives.
     
    shenk1, Mar 21, 2019
    #124
    anstonred and John Peachy like this.
  5. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,896
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That tends to suggest that Great Britons aren't too keen on the full EU continental harvest. We just want to cherry pick.

    Never heard that suggested before.
     
    tobyornottoby, Mar 21, 2019
    #125
  6. Old

    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    4,422
    Likes Received:
    4,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I would if I knew the election was fraudulent.
     
    Old Gimmer, Mar 21, 2019
    #126
    anstonred likes this.
  7. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,948
    Likes Received:
    836
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    But the UK has cherry picked in the past by using its veto ?
     
    BFC Dave, Mar 21, 2019
    #127
  8. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    6,603
    Likes Received:
    4,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Urine Extraction Technician
    Location:
    Elsecar By The Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    shenk1, Mar 21, 2019
    #128
  9. jak

    jakethedog Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Messages:
    267
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yes you can, here's an idea for you, respect the referendum result, see how it goes for a while and if you don't like it you can start a petition for another referendum, that's democracy.
     
    jakethedog, Mar 21, 2019
    #129
  10. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,896
    Likes Received:
    1,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So I understand.

    That's because we've never been fully committed to the EU project. We're a contrary lot.

    That's why we ended up with a referendum, and all this bother.

    In my opinion it will probably make little significant difference at the end of the day whether we're in or out.

    I was sure at least that brexit would make our representatives more accountable, closer to home, with decisions made by those whom we recognised as the ones we voted for.

    But now I know that when it boils down to it our parliament has either a process, or a cohort of MPs, or both, unfit for purpose.

    Why would you want to take back control and give it to this lot?
     
    tobyornottoby, Mar 21, 2019
    #130
    John Peachy, ScubaTyke, anstonred and 1 other person like this.
  11. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    16,919
    Likes Received:
    19,200
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    On a different note I voted labour not independent. Democracy says they that have left the party should resign their post and invoke another election. One thing I do know about democracy it can be blown apart. (But I cant think of another alternative) eg As a pit top worker I was on relatively Poor wages compared to an underground worker. We weren’t able to influence the outcome of a pay ballot as we were in the minority. 10% of nowt is nowt. We were also shafted re the bonus schemes. Rich get richer, poor get poorer. And we call it democracy.
     
    Hooky feller, Mar 21, 2019
    #131
    John Peachy and anstonred like this.
  12. BFC Dave

    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,948
    Likes Received:
    836
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    XenForo - Xenith Reds
    The point I am trying to make is that once we leave the Eu the terms of our membership end. The only referendum that could then take place is to apply to rejoin the eu. The eu could then stipulate terms such as the uk joining the euro as a condition of our readmission. It means if we leave we cannot just go straight back and in if we don’t like it.

    If I have misunderstood you I apologise.
     
    BFC Dave, Mar 21, 2019
    #132
  13. sadbrewer

    sadbrewer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2006
    Messages:
    9,688
    Likes Received:
    4,720
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I can't agree more...why not 12...10....8....obviously there should also be a proxy vote for those yet to be born.
     
    sadbrewer, Mar 21, 2019
    #133
  14. sadbrewer

    sadbrewer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2006
    Messages:
    9,688
    Likes Received:
    4,720
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I don't think anyone could argue with that position.
     
    sadbrewer, Mar 21, 2019
    #134
  15. W1z

    W1zz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2008
    Messages:
    4,155
    Likes Received:
    315
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Why would you want to sign up to be as influential as a local council in a United States of Europe?



     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2019
    W1zz, Mar 21, 2019
    #135
  16. BBB

    BBBFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2015
    Messages:
    738
    Likes Received:
    758
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It's gone swimmingly in the last 3 years? :)

    Also, as Dave says, the terms on which rejoining would occur would not be similar to those on which we would leave, ie we'd almost certainly have to join the Euro etc.
     
    BBBFC, Mar 21, 2019
    #136
  17. Old

    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    4,422
    Likes Received:
    4,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Respect the result of a fraudulent referendum? No thanks. We might well end up being forced to accept the result but that’s not the same thing.
     
    Old Gimmer, Mar 21, 2019
    #137
    anstonred likes this.
  18. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    6,603
    Likes Received:
    4,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Urine Extraction Technician
    Location:
    Elsecar By The Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Not what I (or anybody) have suggested as I explained in my reply.
     
    shenk1, Mar 21, 2019
    #138
  19. MDG

    MDG Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2005
    Messages:
    5,631
    Likes Received:
    4,170
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Darton
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I'm not sure why everyone is jumping on the how dare leave campaign spend like that. What we should also be questioning is why does the electoral commission and law of our land think it was acceptable for the remain campaign spending £9 million of taxpayers money promoting their case when the leave campaign were not entitled to the same.

    Obviously because it was remain, they are exempt from dodgy dealing.

    All those homes who had fear delivered by taxpayers money, that may have voted to leave but scared by our own government out of doing so. Scandalous really. Leave may have actually won by a far greater margin...
     
    MDG, Mar 21, 2019
    #139
  20. anstonred

    anstonred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,162
    Likes Received:
    1,600
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I have tried to sign the petition! The email has come through but, when I click on the link, it says “bad gateway” - it’s frustrating & feels that my signature isn’t wanted
     
    anstonred, Mar 21, 2019
    #140
Page 7 of 39

Share This Page