Rochester and Strood by-election - UKIP

How the bloody hell will that work. People are different. They are brought up differently . Have different values ,RELIGIONS, you cant agree on here from the same town let alone county,another country your avin a larf. Ye man i vote world peace. Be realistic your a teacher goddam. there are so many differing ways and cultures you cant have it all ways there has got to be a cut off or the country gets over run and before you know it BOOM :nails:

 

As relevant today as then. As the rich try to divert people's attention to 'foreigners' rather than them as the reason the Red Cross are delivering food parcels in the UK.

http://youtu.be/fiZFyYkcnf4

 

Yes, people are different. But most of the very best places in the world are places in which those different people, brought up differently and with different values, come together and live together in relative harmony. Personally I wouldn't move out of Birmingham to somewhere like Barnsley, because I'd miss the range of cultures and different types of people. I'd especially miss the delicious Lebanese bakery just round the corner.

I appreciate that not everybody feels the same, but I think it's wise to bear in mind that the 'bad apples' really are few and far between, and all over the world people generally find a way to get on and learn from each other, no matter where they're from. If there's one thing I've learned over the past few years it's that xenophobic, borderline racist rhetoric is responsible for a hell of a lot more problems than general everyday friction between people with incompatible beliefs, who by and large get along with each other. And I'm almost certain that that rhetoric comes from both sides, don't get me wrong. It's just as a white British person with English as my first language, I only generally get subjected to one of them.

 

exactly how many 'rich' people try to blame the foreigners?

 

Newspaper owners and politicians?

 

not quite sure where you get that from,there are very few politicians blaming foreigners especially with regards to lib/lab/cons and not many newspapers do either.

newspapers certainly arnt the reason the red cross is delivering food parcels.

 

Lebanese bloody bakery ,na then lad i can tell thi this tha cant beat Percys for a pie and if tha wants a loaf get to gregs sithi, bloody lebanese

 

There's lots of people in Leeds (where I live) and Bradford (where I work) that have different religions to me, I can't say that any of us ever speak about them day to day unless it's a celebration day in which case we might ask questions out of genuine interest. I much prefer living and interacting with people from different countries than I did when I lived in Grimethorpe and was with people who had only lived there all their life. I feel my understanding of people and the world has improved so much and I wouldn't want to change that. Our ancestors will have come from far and wide to settle here before us, there's not really such a thing as 'our country'. The only place I now that has only indigenous people is a little island in Hawaii where they won't let anyone else even visit there, never mind live!

 

Yes. I don't own Barnsley (I don't even live there anymore), they can live where ever they want. There's people from all over the world living in Leeds, why should I care? I'm not even from Leeds myself but no-one tells me to 'go back where I came from'.

 

Yes its ace to have all these new cultures to draw from,lets leave religion out of it ,but eventually soon the infrastructure will not be able to cope we are only a small island and you can be damn sure your ancestors whether they were fluffy bunnys or not wouldve wanted to protect what they had, there needs to be stricter legislation ,tighter control on immigration,btw how much interaction do you do apart from work with all these people from different countries

 

The same as I do with people from this country, I don't really understand your question.

When I was at uni I might:

- be on the same bus/train, in the same shop, be served by, live next door to etc.
- be in the same uni class
- be friends with (ranging from acquaintance to extremely good friends)
- have 'relations' with (family friendly forum and all that)

Now I'm at work, married and drive it would probably be the latter part of number 1 and number 3.

 

But, if people are different, then they won't all want to live in the same place...so it balances itself out.

 

people are different,no doubt about it,thats why some are abandoning the political parties they have voted for all their lives and preferring the likes of ukip and contrary to what many would have you believe, these people arnt all thick cnuts brainwashed by the media(tho you would struggle to find ukip support in the british media),they see ukips policies and agree with them,simple as that.

http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

before anyone says they only have one and its to get out of the eu,the above link is what is attracting people,in their thousands.the thursday election result was more remarkable than the media would have you believe,ukip went from having viryually no votes to having above 16,000,with a majority in excess of 3000,all this for a party that is berated from every corner of the political spectrum and hammered by the likes of murdoch and the other media barons.

 

very informative, a lot of sensible stuff on it, but hey I'm only a knuckle dragging e.d.l./nazi thug and lovely person in my spare time, just thought I'd add that for the "that's what you are if you don't agree with me brigade"

 

But then you arent integrating into the society, and this obviously causes problems in the society that is already there, ie the indigenous populate

 

Rich people blaming foreigners that'll be millionaire Nigel and his mates. Get rid of those proxy European laws that give workers rights so the rich get richer. Strange that anyone from the north would give an extreme right wing Thatcherite party the time of day look what Farage's hero Thatcher did. People learn nowt from history a bit sad really.

As for the press it drip feeds daily hatred of foreigners of Europe of difference. Again to protect the interests of the rich. The bastion of Britishness the Telegraph supported the Nazis in the war as did the Mail. Times of economic crisis have always provoked this.

 

You'd struggle to find UKIP support in the British Media?

We've heard wall to wall coverage of Farage for months to the point where I've stopped paying my TV license.

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you an ex miner and ex trade unionist?

 

the media are covering ukip's rise,should they not do this ?,they are hardly praising ukip,who,without doubt get far more negative cover than positive.
yes you are right i'm an an ex miner and a trade unionist,which means i should do what exactly,carry on voting labour?

 

Ukip have been given access to the pre election debates Scottish Nationalists who will get more seats haven't hardly UKIP bashing there.

 

for what its worth i think all the parties should be involved in debates