Rosie duffield

Really don’t understand some of the comments on here.
IMO you can’t compare the two except over one thing.
One is a serving MP and was an opposition Minister the other is nothing but a private self employed person.
One claims they did what was best for their family, one has admitted they went to meet someone else.
One has apologised and recognised their error, one has not.

BUT both did break the rules over Lockdown.

 

“nothing but a privately employed person”

And you don’t really understand some of the comments! Probably because you don’t understand what’s gone on based on the above.

 

Sorry am I wrong is he a serving MP or is he a self employed person?

 

Self employed? If I understand you correctly you are implying it’s more serious what an MP has done than DC, because he isn’t an MP?

 

No not at all what I did was listed why you can’t compare the two.
One IS a MP and one is a member of the public who happens to work carry out his work with the Government.

The very last thing I put was they both broke the lockdown rules.

 

One is an MP. The other is a SAGE member and the chief advisor to the prime minister.
One met her none co-habiting partner. The other drove 260 miles to visit his mother and then drove a further 60 miles to take his wife out for her birthday.
One has apologised and resigned, the other refused to offer any apology.

 

Correct, you have confirmed my point that you can’t compare the two.
I believe only bit you have got wrong is that there is nothing to suggest he is on Sage committee but he has attended in an observatory role(as do other Government Officials)

 

Of course he's a sage member. When questioned repeatedly about him making the rules he never once denied it.

May I ask why you are defending him?

 

I’m staggered you can’t see that Cummins is by far the most serious. Well I know you can but by trying to compare and deflect it makes you think you’ve got an argument point. A thing to consider when he sat lying in the rose garden last week even he didn’t feel the need to use what about ery.

 

Where have I defended him?
I haven’t in fact I have gone on record saying on another thread he should be taken to account and dealt accordingly.

As for sage the facts are the government have never released who is on there, they have previously released a statement saying he wasn’t(I appreciate we can’t take everything they say at face value) but perhaps you have some insider knowledge that has never been released?

 

**** me read the post! I said you can’t compare them.
I listed reasons why you can’t compare them and you’ve jumped to a (wrong) conclusion that I’ve defended him.

 

He’s not self employed or an MP is he?

 

then why word it as he’s just an employee, the tone of your initial post implied you saw him as just a person and the MP had done wrong. That’s why I asked you to clarify which you didn’t really.

 

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I have to admit I assumed he is a self employed consultant, on that I could be wrong.

 

No I stated what I thought their positions were Donnyrwd has advised I am wrong about the SE bit.
Did you miss the bit where I used the word claim for him and admit for her?
And the next line where I said one had apologised and one not?
For avoidance of doubt the MP did do wrong IMO((but so did Cummings)

 

Jeesus H Christ!!

 

So

what is he then?
Having googled it I am assuming he is classed as a temporary Civil servant

 

Im not exactly sure; it’s a political appointment, he’s definitely not a civil servant, the head of the civil service works to the Cabinet Office. D.C. works directly to the PM, making him much more influential than the entire civil service. If we had the same chain of command as the Yanks - the official role would be ‘chief of staff’. Constitutionally the role doesn’t exist here - yet there he is.

it’s a very similar role to the one held by Alistair Campbell - so this isn’t a partisan post, although my spider senses tell me that he’s involved wider across government than AC was. His job is officially to advise the PM but he’s sticking his oar in wider than that. Cameron had the guy who then went to work in the press, TM sacked her senior advisors because they screwed up badly; but none of those had anywhere near the power afforded to D.C.

 

TBH, all that you put there was why I assumed he was self employed as I couldn’t see where he fitted.

 

But why assume self employed? He works for the PM. We know what his role is; you just wanted to obfuscate his importance.