Russia invades Ukraine

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  1. Don

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    Is this ‘very dodgy stuff’ actual evidence of the specific wrongdoing that Trump and his QAnon followers alleged?
     
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    It contains references to paying “the big man” for his share of some Ukraine energy deal - the big man being Joe Biden. Also apparently lots of incriminating evidence around his drugs and ladies of the night predilections.
     
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    Can you post a link to a reputable source for this please?
     
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    A cease fire for Ramadan, innocent people have been getting killed since 2015. There wont be as much made of it as the usa and uk are freindly with the saudis and dont want to upset them we put restrictions on russian billionaires but let saudi princes buy football clubs here. Hypocritical? Very much.
     
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    Yet another new low for the Russian military (if that is possible) ... In the full knowledge that a station in East Ukraine was being used as a major evacuation point with thousands of civilians present waiting to board trains fired two missiles into it killing many and injuring hundreds. Blame Putin for starting this obviously, but it is the Generals and troops who target the civilians and press the buttons. Modern warfare means you can kill indiscriminately and remotely without even seeing your 'enemy'. Nevertheless you can only describe those perpetrating these acts a 'scum' and whilst two wrongs do not make a right I would have no guilty conscience for feeling nothing other than happiness if these criminals were wiped off the face of the Earth.

    Whatever propaganda or conditioning people have been exposed to, any remotely civilised person can see that indiscrimately killing unarmed civilians trying to escape the violence is nothing to do with, 'doing your duty' and simply 'following orders''.

    As regards, the 'West' complaining that sanctions hitting energy with 'harm' people in Europe, and Economics need to be considered when discussing cutting off Russia's source of funding.
    1bn dontated to Ukraine thus far...
    1bn PER DAY goiung to Russia for gas, coal and Oil.

    In many cases people complaining that we are not doing enough are the same people complaining about the possibilty of fuel and food rationing. Effectively Europe is at War. The longer it goes on the worse it will get.
     
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    In the words of Air Vice Marshal John Slessor in 1944. “ I am not a vindictive man but I hope there may be some special place in hell reserved for the brutes in the Kremlin.”
     
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    Footage on Sky showing debris of a missile used in the strike on Kramatorsk.

    Painted on the side of the mangled casing, painted on it before its launch is the message in Russian.... "for the children"
     
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    It’s all just so heartbreakingly barbaric and unnecessary. The world is burning, and this $hit is still going on. Mankind is fkd.
     
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    I'm embarrassed to say I've set foot in 7 of the countries who abstained or voted against Russias removal.
     
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    I'd love to hear the reason for the abstentions from some of the countries. Is it solely that they rely on Russian oil or do they not trust the way the war is being reported on in the west?
     
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    sorry, but any article that starts with Trump NOT being in collusion with or an asset of Russia is not to be taken seriously. My days, the GQP and it allies are the masters of projection. Paedogeddon needs remaking with these feckers the target although that's supposed to be satire ad thr Republican Party are well beyond that.
     
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    There are reasons beyond that though. If you look at the list of countries, you have plenty who have poor humans right records. Ones with populist leaders. Ones that are under the influence of China and Russia. Ones that have or are conducting genocide on parts of their people.

    You've countries who have been "invaded" by western groups.

    In a way you can understand some of the sentiment, as grim as it is and how fractured it shows the world to be.
     
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    This was kind of my point. The West reporting human rights abuses and killing innocents as though they are whiter than white when the whole world knows this is not the case.
     
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    Look the facts are these - the hunter biden laptop was dismissed- by all the mainstream media and political commentators and the CIA as being in the imagination of conspiracy crackpots and was probably a Russian plot. Now it turns out not to be, I don’t care for trump but neither am I so blinded by a hatred for him that I’m not astonished by this coverup and attempt to deflect away from the facts as they are now being proven.
     
  19. Red

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    Kenya's abstention has shocked me, especially after their well delivered words at the UN when all this first started...
     
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    I'd suggest people google the New York Post and check out the Wikipedia entry, specifically the section on the Hunter Biden laptop.
     

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