Sack Davey?

RE: Me too

1 when we have are best team on pitch we consistant and pick up points 2 charlton are worst team in league. the loss of hume and howard would effect any team. 3 dosent get best from his players .he has turned jcr into one of the best attacing players in championship .4 agreed his substitution are normaly not the best but you need the players on the bench who can change games . at the end the day we could do alot worse and end up league 1

 

RE: But

I agree that the main thing is that we stay in the Championship - and I hope you're right about us staying up (I think we probably will - I'm sure there are worse sides around us). But we're not safe yet.

All I want is to hit that magic fifty points a few games earlier in the season than we have been doing under Davey. It's a modest ambition. I'd be delighted if we could finish around 14th and to hell with the Premier League

I wouldn't trade those promotion/premier league memories for owt in football though. They were precious.

 

RE: But

Mate "I wouldn't trade those promotion/premier league memories for owt in football though. They were precious."

Neither would i..

but believe brother .. lol

 

this season i think davey has tryed to get a leaner and meaner squad, gone for qualitey not quanitey.which with a club of our size make sense. unfortunattley for one reason or another we have not had our best 11 on pitch enough times .hence another dog fight

 

We've conceded 19 goals at home, and 29 goals away. 48 goals in total. Pretty tight. Compares well to Wolves (45) Burnley (50+) and Preston (50). Nothing wrong with that.

We've scored 25 at home and only 12 away. 37 goals in total. That's worse than Charlton, Southampton and Forest who are in the bottom three. I heard a statistic which suggested that we'd scored the second least goals in the division this season - but I'm not going to count everyone up.

The issue is fairly clear to anyone that watches the side. We're not bad at the back, and we can play with a solid midfield, but we don't really have any sense of direction up front. We depend upon the individual brilliance of players to make things happen (JCR for example) - we don't attack with any sense of organisation, our strikers have always appeared to lack coordination or a sense of direction.

This isn't about us signing Kevin Phillips - this is about the manager drilling the team and getting it sorted on the training pitch. I honestly believe that Davey's biggest problem (and his critical flaw) is that he doesn't know what to do with his strikers. I think as long as we've got Davey in charge, we'll struggle to score goals and as a result, we'll always sit at the foot of the table and dread the relegation battle every year. There is nothing wrong with wanting more than that.

 

you after give him credit for last two games .he has showed some ****** in dropping boogey and partnering mifsud and macken together

 

Why the name change JohnnyCoachman?

Same cracked record though!

 

RE: Why the name change JohnnyCoachman?

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Time for a change and Manlito is 2/3rds of my real name.
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well said mate

I tend to agree.

I want Davey to succeed. He speaks well and has brought in some excellent players.

The club has moved forward in the last 3 years and he has contributed to that.

I saw this season as a watershed and unfortunately, at the moment, it appears as though we have not made any progress from last year and it would be fair to say that he has failed.

Another relegation scrap is not good enough.

We are OK at the back. I think our problems emanate from our attack, be it in midfield or up front. You never get the feeling that we are capable of coming back into a game or beating the opposition by more than one. There often appears to be little direction. I think we need to work on set pieces also. We also continue to concede later goals which worries me.

Having said this if we finish strongly this season then I would be tempted to give him another 10 games in charge to see if we make a strong start to next season. If we are bottom 8 of the Championship come October of next season then it will be time for a change.

 

Lets continue with the same old end of season struggle then with no ambition or feel good factor, wether people like it or not Davey will help reduce the amount of season tickets sold next season if he stays

 

POINT 3

You are joking , right?
JCR is not one of the best in this league, no way. Out wide he is exciting, but fails to deliver enough quality, in the middle in his roaming role he looks no more than adequate.

 

RE: POINT 3

When JCR plays well, regardless of where he is, he is top Championship quality. He does have games where he doesn't really get going and does try to do to much at times but he is a very good player. He has come on leaps and bounds since he joined us. I don't think it is anything other than the fact he has matured and is hitting his peak. I prefer him on the wing but he can cause trouble anywhere, provided he is on the opposition half, he was wasted in the deeper position. He always puts a shift in too. He may not be be 'the' best in this league but he is as good as we could hope for.

 

I don't want to give him credit for having some ******, I want to give him credit for winning enough football matches to keep us midtable.

As I've already said - if we're creating lots of chances, but not scoring goals - it's the strikers lacking the quality to take their chances. If we're not creating chances, the manager can't blame the strikers, he has to look at what his side are doing in the final third.

Yesterday, despite our complete dominance of Derby, we carved out maybe three to five decent chances. Their keeper made three good saves - but outside of that we didn't test him repeatedly.

I'd love to know how many times we actually put the ball into the box with any degree of accuracy or conviction. The final ball wasn't particularly good, and it wasn't effective (how many times did Misfud end up crossing in the second half? - if he's the one who is crossing the ball, he's likely to be crossing to one lone centre forward). We're just not very well coordinated in that part of the pitch. In the six yard box we don't attack the ball in with any sense of belief, we're particularly static (which I'm sure most centre-backs love), and we rarely get a midfielder making a late run into the box to meet anything either. The basic stuff they show week in and week out on match of the day where one striker is breaking his neck to get to the front post before the defender - we just don't see that happening. Do we ever see any communication/coordination between the front two when they're attacking a corner? It all makes it easier for the defence. Second half - 70 minutes in I kept looking at the distance between Macken and Misfud, they were a good twenty five yards apart for most of the game from that time onwards, and this coincided with a period where most of the game was played on the half way line, and we simply started to knock it over the top hoping that Misfud would be able to run on to it.

Let's face it, we're not going to sign a top flight striker, so if we get hold of a striker who buries one in three chances, we're doing extremely well. But do the maths on it - that means if we want to beat teams comfortably (i.e. 2-0 and beyond) we have to start creating more than six chances per game. In all likelihood we'll need to be creating a great deal more. At the start of the season we were inclined to line up with Kayode Odejayi up front - he's never a 1 in 3 man. He might be a 1 in 8 man, we're creating three or four chances per game - can we be surprised that we don't beat sides comfortably?

The problem doesn't stop there, unfortunately. If teams are aware that we're not very well coordinated up front, it will invite them on to us. They get brave, and we get beaten. Look at Norwich away. Second half, they realised that we just weren't going to hurt them, so they poured it on and we let in four goals without reply. Teams will bomb forward if we can't do the business against them in their penalty area.

I'm no genius, and I'm only talking from a basic level of understanding of the game, but I haven't seen Davey tackle those issues - and they won't be tackled by just signing new players.

 

didnt go yesterday.but stats showed 11 shots on target and six off, you said we had 5 good chances which should be enough to win game. in the bigger picture this season, the loss off howard was more than his goals most off our attacking play went through him ie he had most assits last season .then the loss of hume same again i belive he would of created goals for us and scored them. we lost devaney for 12 weeks. leons been out injured this year. iam sure davey knows what needs to be done attacking wise , but he can only work with what he has. the fact that a 3rd divison strickers turned us down proves its hard to get the right player come to club

 

didnnt go yesterday.but stats showed 11 shots on target and six off, you said we had 5 good chances which should be enough to win game. in the bigger pitchure this season, the loss off howard was more than his goals most off our attacking play went through him ie he had more assits last season .then the loss of hume same again i belive he would of created goals

 

didnnt go yesterday.but stats showed 11 shots on target and six off, you said we had 5 good chances which should be enough to win game. in the bigger pitchure this season, the loss off howard was more than his goals most off our attacking play went through him ie he had more assits last season .then the loss of hume same again i belive he would of created goals

 

didnnt go yesterday.but stats showed 11 shots on target and six off, you said we had 5 good chances which should be enough to win game. in the bigger pitchure this season, the loss off howard was more than his goals most off our attacking play went through him ie he had more assits last season .then the loss of hume same again i belive he would of created goals

 

11 shots on target includes three free kicks from twenty-five to thirty yards - one was decent by Hassell (although the keeper was well positioned and he palmed it over), the other two were nothing to worry the keeper. Misfud went one on one with the goalie twice (once in each half). Macken should have done better with only the goalie to beat less than six yards out. The other 'shots on target', included an effort by El Haimour from outside the area that was decent but got blocked by the defender, and then we would have had maybe three others from outside of the area - but nothing with any particular venom.

The stats may show 11 shots on target - that's different from us creating decent chances.

The stuff that wasn't on target really wasn't worth writing home about - apart from a freakish cross from El Haimour that struck the far post and could have crept in.

We had four incidents in the box - tops - where we looked like scoring. We were not creating chances yesterday.

 

Don't waste your breath its like talking to concrete sometimes, some people think we should be happy with the same **** every season. Failure to improve again this season should not be tolerated, come the end of May he must go.</p>

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But we were awesome yesterday! nt