Safe standing

I've looked up and down the thread, I've used control and f, used the search button and tried reading in Braille too but nope I can't find where I said that anywhere

 

Re: found this site.....

Proper stewarding and policing addresses your first point.

If you want to sit down and don't want a metal bar in front of your eyes, sit somewhere else in the ground. Nobody will be forced into safe standing areas - at the moment everybody is forced to sit.

 

I think you misunderstood, they said you ARE a right arse, not you've got one

I know what you mean though and it isn't just about you being a little wussy girl who's scared of the cold either it's just about having a bit of control. In your seat you have control, it's yours, it's clearly defined. In a standing area it isnt, it's an imaginary area. They move slightly inwards and you can't really do much about it. You CAN ask them to move and the probably will but they could also turn nasty. I don't think that's actually much about you being a girl, I know a lot of people like you, myself included.

 

To be fair, I can't argue with that, they clearly know me well!

You've just explained that a lot better than I could.

About the cold... it was snowing earlier!!! I'm dreading tomorrow.

 

No its just a drum youve banged more than once.

Your not alone in that but you are the main protagonist.

 

There isnt many people who wont vouch for them. Held in high regard.

Albatross will pop up soon and reiterate what ive said.

 

I'd happily pay more to stand. For the warm if nowt else. I'm Neshand standing is both warmer and more involving. The death knell of football was the removal of terracing.

 

I suppose hugging the person in the next seat to celebrate a goal is right out then?

 

Not for me - spent millions seating stadiums have to spend more money changing them again.

 

Find one single post I've ever made where I've said all Barnsley men are pissed up fools.

Clue. I never have. What I have always said is that SOME are and that we have to eradicate them

To put it another way what I've always said is that if there is one paedo in your neighbourhood going round molesting kids but the police don't do anything about it then you would keep banging on about it til they were dealt with. Now because you've been banging on about it a lot does that mean you are accusing the entire neighbourhood of being paedophiles? No it doesn't. Yet when I keep banging on about the small number of tw@ts who claim to support Barnsley that is translated as me saying every single person is one. Aye ok

 

That is because the majority of people talking about them WANT them so they are prepared to overlook the obvious drawbacks

Here's a point. Why are we all pissing about with the idea of rail seats when the seats are going to be locked away out of use for basically their entire life? Clubs like Barnsley are basically never getting to the champions league so why does it make any sense to waste an absolute fortune on a system that A. More expensive. B. Not perfect for standing and C. Absolutely awful for seating? Wouldn't it make a hell of a lot more sense to look at a cheaper option which is actually designed solely for standing?

We've all seen rail seats so now imagine rails very similar but with the seat removed. You've lost none of the safety but knocked a LOT off the purchase cost, the installation cost and of the maintenance cost. Also because you aren't having seats you can now slightly alter the design, you can add between 'stands' (each individual persons box) a divider. It gives that person their own space eliminating what jamdrop worried about, it stops any chance of overcrowding because it's clear who goes where and it would reduce the risk of any rush of fans like used to be seen on terraces with fans running across the stand (and at Wembley too apparently). I think for smaller clubs that is a far safer and more practical alternative. I also think that by the time it ever comes in FIFA would agree to it too

 

My guess is that the 'gradient' from the base to the top of the South and North Stands and ES Upper is too steep for safe standing even with barriers.

The architecture of an 'all-seat' stadium is very different to a 'standing' stadium

 

When we had standing at Oakwell there was a fantastic atmosphere now it like the surface of the moon. Quod Erat demonstradum.

 

they should simply have a terraced area,like they used to have...they know how many could go in there while keeping it safe,so sell the tickets and once its 'full' thats it,no more allowed in.

 

Could understand the argument if , like they used to, big groups congregated in one place. You'd still have to stay in one particular place in a numbered seat.

Always remember when we stood up against Wimbledon last game of 85 - all 3,000 of us - it was bouncing

 

how do you let people past who are late or off for a pie or a pea,many time I have to sway the old belly over the seats infront if I am off for a pie,also some grumpy old sods wont move so you need to do the old climb over the row below

 

We have it in Korea. Makes for good atmospheres despite the ***** quality of the games..

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Seats at the back, barriers and smaller seats in front.

 

The main reason for the Hillsborough disaaster.....

Apart from the fact I much preferred standing and feel something was lost by the universal introduction of seating, is that the principal reason for the Hillsborough disaster was the fencing separating spectators from the safety of the playing area! A fact that seems to have been perceived by someone for they were all subsequently removed. But still seems to be unmentioned in the various analyses of the reason for the tragic loss of innocent lives.

 

Re: The main reason for the Hillsborough disaaster.....

Quite true. We had terraces for nigh on a 100 years without the fences and there were very few incidents.