Sam Winnall .......and.........Mavis Riley

Do you really believe we were in a race for promotion to the premiership?





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I've seen every single game mate. Not just the highlights.



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How many points have we taken from the top 7 do you reckon?

Not many.

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The team we had going into the transfer window could on their day beat any team in this league. I don't think anybody could argue with that. We were also within touching distance of a play off position, that is factual. To say that we were not in a fight for promotion is the most negative defeatest 'we are **** and shouldn't dare to compete' attitude that I've ever seen.

 

It's not a defeatist attitude as I see it. It's just reality: clubs with big money for wages, players doing well, players wanting to leave, players with 6 months left on contract. We had no choice, unfortunately. It was a perfect storm. I'm as positive as anyone about BFC, but the above is the reality. I'm happy to accept it and still enjoy watching this team play

 

Two completely different situations, we were terrible at the time, with a terrible manager who didn't look like getting the sack, mainly because we didn't have the funds available to sack him, or so that's what we were led to believe. So what I can remember, at the time I was hoping funds were made available in some way in order to get rid of Johnson because it was soul destroying under his leadership. Something clicked, and it had nothing to do with the Dwarf, and the rest is history. At that point though Hourihane was performing no better than any other player in the team, we were ****.

I am not going to praise the club for selling Hourihane for £3m+ because at the time we sold him this year he was worth way way more than that, but our board made a **** up with contracts.
And Winnall, well, useless all round.


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Rubbish. I didn't say anything defeatist.

It would have been great to be in the playoffs, but very long odds indeed.

Anyone can beat anyone on their day, not just us, and we must also have one of the thinnest squads in the division.

Out of the current top 7 teams we've managed a couple of draws and a single win against leeds.

Some of you have let yourselves get too carried away with your personal expectations, and are now throwing the teddy out and woe betide anyone that's supportive of the club.

Cos we're not here to be supportive are we? Oh hang on. . . .



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It wasn't £500k.

 

He was set on a move to Wednesday and would have got the monk on even more had we blocked it. I highly doubt anyone else was willing to pay him those sort of wages, and understandably so.

 

Let's be reight here, when he said sell him for £300k he was closer to helping us to L2 rather than the Championship.

Just to be a pedant and in no way agree we should have sold him.

 

To be fair. I'm yet to see a consistent fee being mentioned.

Ranges owt from this 500k to 2.5 million Inc add ons.

But no one is prepared to actually say.

It will then stop all the bull being spouted.

 

700k with add ons if they get promoted. Which they won't, so 700k.


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That 700k will fund the losses for another season

 

That's one of many figures. What makes yours the right one?

 

I hate this cloak and dagger stuff as much as anyone, but I'm not prepared to get anyone into trouble.


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I completely get that pal. It was slightly tongue in cheek as sometimes people are experts after an event. Just like if we had kept Hourihane, Winnall and Bree, not got the (reported) £10m, not got promoted, and they'd all left in the summer we'd have been in an even worse position. Had we kept them and got promoted? Wow! But the club took what (in my opinion) was the sensible option. Others disagree which is completely fine. I just don't see what repeating it ad nauseum does. Seeing as either view is an opinion not fact.

No one likes to see good players go. But sometimes we have to trust the club to do what is right. Like they did rejecting the offers from Preston and Bolton (later) when posters on this board were desperate to see him go...(for a tenth of what the board eventually got for him after he helped get us promoted).

I think we've had a great first season back in the championship. Some annoying recent draws we should have won. But form is so cyclical depending on runs of fixtures. Hopefully we can have a good run in and get to 60+ points.

And then the key - the summer. This is where we need to see the club follow through with their promise. If the plan was to buy young, develop, sell for profit, invest in more/better young talent, then they have money to do that. I'll be as frustrated as anyone if we don't see this next key stage of the plan implemented well. However I have faith we'll see plenty of good recruitment this summer.

Just how I see things. Others have a differing view. fair do's!

 

It may not be a new religion, but it's certainly a cult full of cultish type people and my spellings crap by the way.

 

The local Wednesday support has been going on for years, Its not recent. In the 60 there were at least 2 bus loads going from Wombwell on Burrow's Bus. United didn't have that many and still don't. Maybe a dozen catch the train.
The only way to get the support is to get back into the Premiership and stay there 2-3 seasons and then Yo-Yo.

 

In other words, you was being the one what was "defeatist" and was wrong in thinking we we're going down