Schopp Gone?

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  1. Sopwith Camel

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    Bingo..
     
    Sopwith Camel, Oct 31, 2021
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    I've nothing at all against moon. I like him.

    But I've no respect for a manager when 3 more experienced players for that position are available

    In my opinion
     
    nezbfc, Oct 31, 2021
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    I’m going to have to stop laying us on Betfair now, I’m a rubbish fan but it has been a very profitable run...
     
    Archerfield, Oct 31, 2021
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    Is Eckert still at the club? I ask this as since his 3 match suspension for the Stoke fracas, I can't recall seeing him
     
    kektyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    So then you keep it all under wrap!
     
    Redhelen, Oct 31, 2021
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  7. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Fair. But Hondermarck is arguably less experienced having never started a game there, and as mentioned if Benson/Palmer weren’t 100% fit I see the logic not starting either when you’re bringing Madds back for the first time in months.

    Doesn’t matter now. I just think Moon had a decent game above what some have described (who unlike you didn’t even watch the game and probably thought he was going to play badly before a ball was kicked).
     
    Loko the Tyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    I've not seen anywhere that he's left. It's not as if the club would not make an announcement when someone had left the club(!) :)
     
    JLWBigLil, Oct 31, 2021
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    This is your problem Ben. You can't accept anyone elses opinion above your own

    And then make it personal
     
    nezbfc, Oct 31, 2021
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    And then get pilloried for the next three years for a 21-word statement. It's a lose-lose situation.
     
    SFOTyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    Woah. I’ve just said ‘fair’ which is accepting your opinion, repeating why I gave mine, and then saying it doesn’t matter too much now anyway.

    And where did I make it personal? Haven’t done that at all. Saying ‘this is your problem Ben’ feels the most personal thing in the whole thread to be honest.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    Probably be announced same time as the new head coach. Which I imagine will be around January time
     
    kektyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    I didn’t mate - always thought Hannibal had good taste !
     
    Chef Tyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    Well we do have 8 months until pre-season starts..
     
    Sopwith Camel, Oct 31, 2021
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    I wish him all the best. He didn’t say anything wrong whilst he was here…. But it didn’t work out.

    Hopefully we can bounce back up the league.
     
    Austiniho, Oct 31, 2021
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    Managers gone (at last) turns into a 6 page epic about a centre half. Good work you Sunday evening BBS.
     
    pompey_red, Oct 31, 2021
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    Maybe Dane will give us an update later tonight?
     
    Loko the Tyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    "Unlike me who didn't watch the game" pal....

    How is that not personal

    Ballax
     
    nezbfc, Oct 31, 2021
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    Jesus. You’ve read that completely wrong. I’m saying you actually watched the game whereas others haven’t and still criticise his performance. Read it back - I’ve not edited at word. ‘Who unlike you didn’t actually watch the game’.

    I try 99% of the time to not get personal on here. I’m sure I’ve slipped up in the past, but I’m quick to call out anything like that.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Oct 31, 2021
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    It's early days, so I want to see what the true position is, but if this ends up being the case then it would point towards absolutely reprehensible conduct by those in charge.

    Think whatever you like about Schopp, but this would point to the club opting to keep someone in position for an unspecified period of time, long after it was clear he was not suited to the role, in a high pressure situation with little regard for his mental wellbeing. Presumably they've then been prepared to allow him to continue with little support in that role, effectively to enforce a resignation, which may or may not have come, at some undetermined point in time.

    The logical conclusions to take from that would be:
    - it reinforces the belief that our league position is a secondary consideration, as this is potentially a stand-off that could have gone on indefinitely, with an ineffective coach in charge;
    - it raises yet more questions about the financial state of the club if they are prepared to resort to tactics such as these to avoid a pay-off;
    - it would essentially send a signal out to all employees & players, both current and future, that we really don't believe in respecting the duty of care to our staff.

    Essentially, it would point to all other matters being secondary to saving a bit of money on a bad appointment decision.

    I'm aware that there's a lot of supposition within this but, if he's chosen to resign, I'm struggling to see any alternative conclusions that can be drawn around the whole saga.

    I really, really hope that when this news breaks officially, it ends up being a decision taken by the club, and not a resignation, or at least a 'mutual consent' thing which implies that a settlement has been reached. Otherwise, those running the club may have done the impossible and actually made my opinion of them sink further.

    I working on the basis that it has to be a sacking or a mutual agreement, perhaps more through hope than anything else. The alternative is too dire to contemplate as being realistic.
     
    Sheriff, Oct 31, 2021
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