Scott 'captain' Wiseman

I have a crack playing wiseman on right wing

 

I explain why Wiseman is playing, and all I get in reply is the same old mantra. Still I suppose it save you having to think.

 

You said why You thought he was playing, but then you are moaning at others saying what they think!
Each to their own !!

 

Can't fault his effort, he's just not good enough, although he has improved since joining us.

Easy target for the boo boys too. Oh, and I'm not a fan of his, rather McNulty was playing(thought he was utter **** last season)

What do I know?

 

What I would like is a reasoned argument. Why are all his detractors out in force today. Did he have a bad game? Was he at fault for the goal? The answer to both questions is no, in my opinion. But in spite of that, his is the first name the haters reach for. Why? Because it saves them having to think. When anything goes wrong, no need to look for an explanation because Wiseman was in the team. It is lazy, and it is stupid.

 

Wiseman like a number of other players that we have just isnt up to it. Just because a player is quick and can recover does not make him a decent footballer. I've lost count of the times in the last 10 games when he recieved the ball and could have moved into midfield yet decided to play a pass sideways or backwards into trouble. You also expect a leader to lead. Be it 'judge me by my actions' ala Beckham in his pomp for England or a vocal leader. He is neither.

Saying all this.....he's still better than etuhu. That guy is stealing a living.

 

It doesnt sound like you want a reasoned argument Red Rain. Its coming across to me as though you feel that you are the only one qualified to understand why he is playing, and now that you have educated us, we have to lump it. Sorry, but no. Its was obvious why he plays Wiseman, and you explained it. Trouble is its not working. His lack of ability to defend far outweighs the benefits of his pace and therefore playing higher up the pitch etc etc. He also cant pass from the back as well as McNulty or Cranie can in my opinion. Btw, responding to this by saying agai that i didnt "think" about it and am therefore "stupid and lazy", would indicate just that on your part. To answer the questions, i thought he (and others) had a really poor game yesterday, and i thought (having not seen a replay) he defended their goal really poorly, having seemingly stood and admired the header instead of defending the cross.

 

I have not seen a replay either, but this is what I saw. Foster went across to cover leaving us a player light in the centre. He was beaten to the line by Church who hit the cross. Beckford has gambled on a run to the near post and was ahead of his marker, Wiseman. Steele saw the danger developing, but both Steele and Wiseman were beaten by the player who had gambled on the near post run. When the cross was delivered accurately, the goal was undefendable by those in the centre. The only chance on stopping the goal was by stopping the cross.

To blame the defense for the defeat by Huddersfield is to totally ignore half of the team who have failed once more to score. Even if the defense had denied Huddersfield, we would still have only drawn the game. You cannot compartmentalise a team into Defense, Midfield and Attack. The whole team is responsible for defending and attacking. The system that we used again yesterday (a diamond until the arrival of RNL and JoB) means that the width going forward has to be provided by the full backs. This is why Stones was out of position when Huddersfield attacked us on the break, which is why Foster had to go across to cover Church. The goal was entirely down to Huddersfield's pace on the break. It was that pace that drew us out of position and created the goal. If when a goal is scored, if you simply look for the closest player to the goal scorer and blame him, you miss out on a whole series of events and errors which lead inexorably in some cases, to a final conclusion. Where was our pace in attack. Where were the players to deliver the defense splitting ball from our midfield, and finally, where was the movement from the forwards which would create the space for the pass, especially after Mido was introduced. This was the first time I have seen him in the flesh and I cannot over-emphasise how unimpressed I was.

 

YES..................My thoughts exactly

 

Strange I could have sworn he lost his man, again

Not denying that Foster should have done better but we need better than him anyway..

 

Was he at fault for the goal? erm yes. Both he and foster were equally at fault. Foster forgot how to tackle and allowed him to put a cross in, Wiseman forgot that it's nice to be within 100 yards of the attacker allowing him a free shot on goal.

 

he did loose his man,

scott is a liabilty where he's being played at the moment,I just dont think he's cut out for that position,

I aggree with what was said earlier,he'd make a decent winger,but it would have to be on the right because his left foot is redundant.

to be honest its not just scott wiseman thats poor in defence,the lot of them are...you've only got to look at how many goals we've conceded.

 

The key words being 'in my opinion'. Others have differing opinions. I thought wiseman should have been a lot tighter to beckford, he was too slow to react to the movement to the front post. Foster should have done more to stop the cross and steele didn't cover himself in glory, but wiseman should have done better too.

 

league one players out of their depth.

 

If he doesnt get drop after his performance v hudds it proves keith is blind. The 2 pathetically attempted backpasses were prime examples of his poor performance.

If i had to play him anywhere it would be right wing. Put obrien on left and cwyka to play off the front 2.