For all that there may be fatalities in horse racing, the sport doesn't set out to kill the horses. In general racehorses are pampered and should go on to a happy retirement after racing, assuming the sport assumes its overall responsibilities. On the other hand we are quite happy to allow large amounts of animals to be killed for food, some with a very short lifespan, as long as they just end up as another pack on a supermarket shelf. Out of sight is out of mind. -- Read that on another forum. It's spot on.
Not at all, it's a personal choice. I was even cooking meat for my Mam recently when she was ill. Wasn't pleasant though. I never said 'directly responsible', I never even used the word 'implicated' although I hope that was inferred. You are not reading it properly, I told you take your time. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. It's been emotional, thanks.
Enjoy your pint Mr C and whilst your drinking it, just remember it was probably filtered through animal stomach, MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Enjoy
Well, isinglas from a fish bladder on some cask ales. There's a thread somewhere about my moral dillemma over that! Search for 'gone right off ale'. Sadbrewer put my mind at rest I think! And there's me moaning about unnecessary, avoidable deaths of horses!!
read that thread mr c but you can never tell LOL. Can i ask is it just the grand national you oppose or all of the horse racing. im interested
I've always wondered how (and why and who) they first thought of using this (isinglas) to filter beer. I used it on my home brew as a young 'un. Eee , them wo the days
Not at all, I think it's a great event. I love watching horses run. But I can't reconcile the suffering and death of an animal in the name if entertainment. The sport needs to put it's house in order. People quote low stats, but 0.2% equates to one premier league footballer dying every other game. I worked it out!
agree i dont know if you have seen or heard of the site race horse death watch. it lists all the fatallitys and is trying to educate about the dying and suffering. Dont know if i read about it on that site but i read some where that the horses are put to sleep but in alot of cases if a painkiller was administered then the horse could be looked after ,but that owners and trainers wont pay and the horse is then no good to them, and they cant sell them. So maybe the owners and trainers need brought to heed on this also.
you should be watching channel 4. Teaforthree documentary and he's working out himself. No jockey, just running around in a field jumping fences, barbaric.
There's a few brewers don't use it anymore. Just go for natural 'unfined' beer. Bloody lovely stuff too. Moor Brewery in Somerset are the best of the lot
So you knew I was asking you ,I know you know your stuff about ales.(I'm in linear not threaded.....I had to switch to make sure you meant me ). I wondered if you new the answer to the question about isinglas. When I was a young un home brewing was the only way I could get beer (youthful good looks....still got em ). I used to use it but only found out years later what it was and I just couldn't figure out why someone in brewing would think to use something derived from a fish to clear the brew. I know they used to experiment all the time but its seems a long shot to start with unless it had some sort of previous /related use. Speaking of beer.....I can here my name being called by one Back later!
I'm in threaded, and I was asking Ryhill Tyke actually. But as you're here, not sure why they first tried it but they just knew it would collect all the yeast cells and once them to sit at the bottom of a cask. Think they used to use them in chocolate or sweets years before, but not sure why. Must be a link. Now go get that beer!