see British soldiers are using JC as target practice now

got to admit that's just pure filth, aviation porn

 

I often come at the sight of a nice pair of wing tips.

 

no they sent an armed force totally depleted by a former labour govt... .. read history if you are able to.

 

Oh I’m well able to read history or anything else for that matter or I wouldn’t have a BA Hons Degree. I’ve read and watched stuff about the Falklands. Not only did a Tory Govt fail to provide for the military they deployed them there knowing they were ill-equipped.

 

Ask Jo Cox's husband what he thinks of it?

 

I have & have had numerous family members in the armed forces - I don’t condone any violence or comment on whether (or not) there should have been wars in the Falklands, Gulf or Afghan- I think that you are one-sided in your views v Corbyn that belongs with the rabid press. If no one talked to the IRA or Sinn Fein , we may not have had the current agreement in NI.
You rant at me re Corbyn because of your personal experiences (which I have no direct knowledge of, to be honest) but then go on about Thatcher who destroyed communities for her own dogma, including the effigy in Goldthorpe (that I do have personal experience of) - I do not condone that but understand why people considered her to be evil.
I condemn terrorism in all its forms (must be my bleeding heart) & I wish I was flexible enough to get near to getting my head up my arse, let alone out of it.
There are better ways of making a point than being abusive but I appreciate how your personal experiences influence your views.

And yes, I agree that, in the current climate, the paras were wrong

 

Imagine it was a woman politician who was being shot up - we'd never here the last about woman being targetted

 

seriously its like folk go out of their way to get offended these days.
Yes these paras should have known better but, they weren't shooting a woman's picture so why even introduce that into the equation .They were shooting pellet guns on a private range.
Can't help thing there is a bit of holier than thou preaching going on,on here, how many people in the past have put pictures of people /footballers/bosses they didn't like on dartboards or mullered them with air rifle pellets , just for a laugh or just to work off frustration. Didn't mean they were going out in the real world to use real guns on them did it?

 

I agree to a point, they undoubtedly bore the brunt in casualty terms, but the British, Yanks, and Canadians sent a lot of war material and critical intelligence that helped keep the Soviets afloat at the most critical time, lets not forget the Soviets were in the non aggression pact with the Nazi's until July 1941.
Without help from the USA, both we and the Russians might have not survived.

 

I dont think that is the case tbh, May has tried to get a sensible deal through, but has been frustrated by both Remainers and The ERG in her own party...Corbyn is a lifelong Eurosceptic, likewise hamstrung by Remainers in his own party. I think it's a genuine attempt at consensus ( pity it wasn't done earlier) and might concentrate a few minds to getting something sensible done.

 

I'm not a Tory but to a degree that is unfair, by the time of the Falklands crisis blowing up they had only been in power for less than three years, British Govts of whatever complexion had been cutting for years, but more importantly than the cuts themselves was the fact that the emphasis was on Nato and the Soviets, Main Battle Tanks and Jump Jets to fight a war on the Wide open spaces of Europe...the Navy being Submarine, and anti Submarine from the nuclear concerns....no one had predicted that we would be sending an amphibious task force halfway around the globe .

 

You condemn terrorism: of course you do as would any right minded decent individual. The problem is that Jeremy point blank refuses to condemn the actions of a politically and ideologically motivated group of terrorists. He refuses because he shared/shares their political and ideological beliefs.
If he had/would state that the murder of innocents is wrong (not that it's just regretful) then i doubt we would be having this conversation and perhaps we would be existing under a labour government.

 

I was sent to Iraq when Blair was at the helm, jesus we were under equipped, wrong colour uniform ( initially) for desert fighting, soft skinned vehicles, even the command element were like WTF have you sent us, it took about 3 years for the then Labour government to get it **** into one sock, probably after many of our lads were killed due to there ineptness, btw we dont dont care who is in power when we get sent to flea pits of the world we just want support ( logistic wise) and they failed the troops and many families who lost loved ones

 

Never said it didnt give them any authority to act like *****.

I'm taking the entire saga as what it is. A stress release. Some high jinx to build moral.

Theyll get a bollocking and itll be forgotten about in a few days.

People seem to be taking it far more serious than what it is and looking for angles that dont exisit in order to become more outraged.

 

What? you mean like burning effigies of Thatcher when she croaked, seeing 10 year olds who probably dont get it, languishing and laughing at her death, good one

 

So in your working life have you always been professional and acted accordingly?

Have you ever blow off steam in a manner that your peers may not find acceptable and got a bollocking for it...

 

Ask him why he had to give up his charity roles.

 

Is it just me that can’t relate when people post things like ‘haven’t you ever put a picture of someone on a dartboard and threw stuff at it?’ or ‘haven’t you ever been unprofessional at work?’ No, I haven’t actually. And before anyone asks, no I’m not particularly fun at parties

In regards to this, I think it is wrong for a few reasons. 1) he’s a civilian who they are signed up to protect 2) he’s Her Majesty’s Official Opposition 3) if there’s a snap election he could be their Prime Minister. The comparison to Thatcher is wrong as it wasn’t people who are sworn to protect her doing it and she wasn’t even still alive. Comparisons to Trump are wrong as he isn’t a UK citizen and a blimp isn’t shooting at him anyway. I still wouldn’t have done either but I think the comparisons are wrong.

 

There we go. Obviously they should be dismissed and court-martialled, open insubordination against army policy to not have political opinions at a very unstable time in British politics is reckless and ******* dangerous, it'd be just as bad if it were May, Trump, Putin or Vince bloody Cable being (figuratively) shot at.

But for all the questions about JC and his 'allegiances', etc, where have these pictures come from? Is it someone trying to stoke a fire in politics because they don't like how Brexit is going? If so, who?

 

If it wasn't for the Russians, we'd have lost WW2 - or at least not won. It is unlikely that we'd have launched a successful invasion through France without the massive losses of German personnel, resources and equipment on the Eastern Front. Its also doubtful that they would have been able to successfully invade the UK, so would probably have been a long-term ceasefire. The same goes for WW1, where the largest single allied army contingent was Russian (12m) - compared to ~9m from the UK and similar from France. The Americans were late to both parties, but did have timely interventions.

And at least some senior American Republicans (Bannon) are closely linked to the Brexit vote and attempts to destabilize the EU and UK for financial gain. They see it as a god-given opportunity to make money.