See Hecky's stocks on a downer already

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  1. Jimmy viz

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    Of course he said those things in public. He’s not likely to say that Ugbo is ****. Pinnock was injured for pretty much the whole of his tenure. We are 5 games in the season and we are already playing defenders as forwards. Full backs as centre halves and wingers as forwards. This point to systemic failure rather than either Heckingbottom or Daniel.

    Plenty on here were whinging about Hecky yourself included. You have some weird chip on your shoulder about him. No idea why. Sour grapes presumably.

    I saw him as a decent young manager who took an underperforming team and got it playing to capacity. He then had that team sold out from under him and was forced through a lack of options to play a dour game that kept us out of the bottom 3 against great odds. He isn’t anywhere near the best manager we had and certainly made mistakes but like Daniel he faced almost impossible odds. The system is the reason we get promoted it is also the reason we will probably get relegated.
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    I can’t be arsed but pretty much anyone in here will confirm that before a ball was kicked last season I said we would come straight back up and the season before I said after the transfer window and the flogging off Roberts we would go down. If you wanna travel through the posts feel free.

    Again for simplicities sake if you sell all your best players you get relegated. If you blood their replacements pand improve them then you go back up if you have recruited well It’s how to break that cycle that is the question with no answer at the moment.

    Thought the NHS stopped funding faith healers.
     
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    Pinnock definitely wasnt injured for the whole of his tenure he only got injured just before he left for leeds a broken toe in training just as he had got in the team with man of the match performance against preston at home a goal v reading and a winner at the SOL so that is far from the truth.

    Sour grapes? I was unhappy with the decisions and football before he left and you know I was so it isnt that.

    The underperforming team had turned the season around winning 7 on the spin and in the jpt final before he took over.
     
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    As I thought.
    Good day to you.
     
  5. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    What you thought I was right. Cheers.

    A good evening to you happy clapper.
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    That you couldn't provide evidence of your soothsaying.
    Your spelling is as atrocious as your banter.
     
  7. Jimmy viz

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    The chip on your shoulder is just the way you come across when you talk about Heckingbottom. Completely and utterly negative despite him giving us the best 18 months since we went in the prem. maybe in a few years perspective will let you see things differently. He wasn’t the messiah but on the balance of things did a good job.

    Overall Johnson was a poor manager for us and despite significant investment at Brizzle seems unchanged He goes on losing runs and goes on winning ones. Nothing has changed since he left us.

    He took a team that contained Hourihane, Winnall, Scowen, Bree, Mawson and Roberts to the bottom of L1. That must have taken some doing. At the same time he was a young manager with us and not used to the model where he doesn’t get to choose players.

    I wish him well and other than when they play us would like him to have success. I credit him with assisting in the development of some players who became important for us.

    I can’t think of any manager we have ever had that I would snipe at in the way you do Heckingbottom. Even crazy Morais was entertaining in his own way and i hope though doubt that he will prosper.

    Not everything is black and white. If we get relegated the blame will be with the plan not Daniel at the same time when Daniel picks a crazy side like he did on Saturday he isn’t exempt from criticism. It doesn’t mean that anyone wants him to leave but it was clear even before we kicked off that selection was odd.
     
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    And your spacing is pretty poor. A line between paragraphs is the correct form is it not?

    If you’re going to be a pedant then get the basics right.

    No I said I couldn’t be arsed to trawl back 2 years of the BBS to prove a point to some no mark on the internet. That’s a different kettle of salami.
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    Because it didn't happen. File it under the fantasy section of your contributions to this bulletin board.
    Space.
    Better spelling on this occasion although I'd have used a hyphen between no and mark.
     
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    ...double post...
     
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    There’s the evidence of him saying we’d come straight back up to be fair to him
     
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    Cheers you have more Patience than me for that sorta thing. There’s some around the time of the Roberts sale where I said that Hecky keeping us up would be a minor miracle. To be honest when we sold the spine of the team as we have now it doesn’t make predicting a hard season particularly difficult. Anything can happen and I think we will have an interesting season but it’s naive to think it’s going to be anything but hard to keep us up.
     
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    Cheers for that.
    So he expected promotion.
    Not quite the same as predicting but fair play.
     
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    I remember him saying it, I also remember posting myself straight after we had lost at Sheff Utd that we would go down. I was naively looking forward to getting new owners as I thought things would change, I guess they have but not for the better on the recruitment front.
     
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    Announce Hexit. Tickled me that one.
     
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    On their twitter feed “announce Hexit” ...brilliant :D
     
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    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Yes me too!
     
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    Just beat me to it....tho it deserved repeating
     
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    Are you three sitting round a cauldron cackling away?
     

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