Sexual harrassment

So, you know what, I took your advice. And here is the dictionary definition of a 'paedophile'.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/paedophile

I'll save you the job of clicking the link. It's 'a person who is sexually attracted to children'.

I assume, therefore, that your mockery and pedantry comes from the fact that you dont believe the OP's 15 year old classifies as a child. Well, sorry to p.iss on your apologist chips, but here is how the England and Wales safeguarding and social welfare service define a child.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/case-management-guidance/definitions#:~:text=We define a child as,legislation in England and Wales.

So, you're going to have to explain to me again the error in my original post.

 

Sorry this turned into a bit of an argument between people, please try and get on!!
To clarify - she said she was 23, but looked about 40, she definitely wasn't 23, clearly very drunk so having an argument in the street would have been pointless IMHO. I was just glad my son had the sense to call me and I could go and get him.
This was at one of his best friends houses - I don't know the parents, but I do know the friend and I've had no cause to believe he's had a bad upbringing or anything - they live on a rough estate, but that's not a reason to judge anyone, he's stayed at the house before without incident, he told me he didn't even know there would a "party" with lots of drunk adults/people there like that. It's difficult - you can't go and interview all your kids friends parents to make sure they're nice - as they get older - in Junior school its different, you meet other parents much more and can form better opinions - in high school you just don't mix the same way.
I don't think he'd want me to get the police involved, but I will ask him. 15 year old boys aren't very communicative - he just said "it was a bit noncy". I don't think he was scared or anything but he definitely didn't appreciate that behavior and this "jokey" attitude about it being ok because their boys.
His friend who's house it was at missed all this because he was passed out drunk.
I certainly won't be allowing him to stay there again, but I'd be very surprised if he would even ask again.
Thank you for your views on this, I like this forum because although its "the internet" its very different from Twitter/facebook, etc, and I do value what (most ) of you have to say.

 

I think some older women see ogling over young lads as just a bit of fun and a laugh, I have had this experience plenty of times growing up older women groping and making sexual comments and to be honest it can be very uncomfortable, but it's everybody else laughing that can make it worse and more uncomfortable as you feel stupid for actually feeling uncomfortable, also was camping last year with my kids and my eldest who was 14 at the time was playing football with no top on and a woman, 40ish was making comments to him which really made it hit home about the double standards between sexual harassment dependent on what gender you are

 

She had a tuna flute.

 

Good on your lad for showing some restraint.

What would you have done if it was you? Would you have rang your Dad to pick you up or fornicated? I get your point but I feel the answer is different depending on who answers it.

I get all the butter wouldn't melt answers. However, I think there's a human element here too. I'd have given way to my adolescent animal instinct.

 

Once worked in a sheltered housing scheme where an octogenarian lady cupped my apprentice’s crotch whilst he was up a step ladder replacing a light.
Whilst it’s obviously unacceptable and easy to call double standards as “if it had been a man to a woman the police would have been involved” it just shows why true gender equality is more important now than ever and I think young people are a lot more aware of their own bodies, and of consent than we were. Children are taught to call out things that make them uncomfortable and report them to a trusted adult. Well done your son for making the right choice (there’s plenty of 15 year olds who’d like to brag about being with an older woman) and well done to you for your reaction.

 

It’s sexual assault whether the child is happy to participate or not. They are a child, they need to be protected from adults who prey on their vulnerabilities and who know they are too young to make that decision. His son didn’t ‘show some restraint’ he acted swiftly to protect himself from sexual assault and it’s a credit to wakeyred that their son 1) knew to do this and 2) felt able to contact them in an uncomfortable situation as they knew help would be forthcoming.

 

I must be a disgusting human being because I'd have been up her like a rat up a drain pipe.

 

That's John West, not Rose West.

 

John West had a tuna flute?

 

Have you ever heard of the expression, "read the room"?

 

Made me laugh anyway

The subject matter is serious though….

 

I generally really enjoy your contributions, but I think you've misjudged yourself here. It would be better to keep this to yourself on this occasion.

 

No. And at fifteen I would perhaps had done the same (assuming I was confident enough). I doubt I’d have been strong enough to ring family for help though either way.

You wouldn’t have been a disgusting human. Wakeyred’s lad wouldn’t have been if he’d done it either.

The woman, apparently closer to 40 than 23, would have been the disgusting human. Whether he chose to accept her advances or ring his dad wouldn’t have diminished the depravity of her behaviour.

The fact he was honest and comfortable enough to accept he didn’t want it and to ring his dad shows he’s obviously a well emotionally developed lad.

 

Apologies.

 

The point is, the law doesn't consider you old enough to have made that decision. It's not 15 year old you that's disgusting ( although you may well have been!) but the adult for sexually harassing 15 year old you.

 

Sounds like your lad is mature and sensible for his age. I would go along with him and keep the police out of it but make sure he doesn’t go there again. His mate might need a quiet word or two though.

 

No, you’d have been a victim of sexual assault. You wouldn’t have been disgusting for being assaulted but you’re being disgusting posting that last bit in this thread as a fully grown adult, given the context of this thread.

 

Once again apologies.