Shame on Liverpool and Man Utd...

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  1. Har

    Hardcore Tyke Banned Idiot

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    it would show up on the man utd shirt its got a black v on it they could have stuck it on there

    they both have a large paddy following
     
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    Aslong as they donated to the fund they don't have to wear one. It's ones like the judge off Strictly Come Dancing wearing a sparkly poppy as if it's a fashion statement that I dislike.
     
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    Agreed

    Its like US politicians all wearing the Stars and Stripes pin badge, for fear of being labeled unpatriotic. There is no law to say we have to wear a poppy, and quite right too.
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    I can see where you're coming from but I think all the clubs should have them on their shirts, its just a nice sign of respect... Your club represents your town, your city your community... If i were a man utd fan at the game with my son and he asked me whats that flower on the chelsea shirts - what do you say? People died to give us the right not to wear them on our shirts????? just a lazy excuse
    How can it trivialise it seeing 'every person on the BBC wearing them'?? - So if there's not so many poppys about the statement is more applified?? - doesn't wash with me and this agruement of 'people died to give me the choice not to wear one' is technically correct but so far wrong its almost laughable.
    Its a contenious issue and blurs into the freedom of speech territory - and no doubt the PC brigade that marshell this board will be flexing their fingers and getting their dictionary's out.... but to me its a no brainer .... and I would love ot see a barnsley shirt with a poppy on next year... and no, they dont need my permission
     
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    On the Children in Need weekend

    premiership players should all play with a bandage over one eye. The ones that don't, clearly don't care about children being in need.

    Isn't morally requiring everyone to wear a poppy being rather, well, 'politically correct'? Does that mean you are joining the 'brigade'?
     
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    My point about the BBC thing, and this was debated I think last year, is that if there is a company edict that everyone has to wear one then you don't know who agrees with wearing one or not, also people are just given them in the dressing room, they don't even have to donate any money for it. Leave it up to the individual.
    Some people also prefer to donate money to a cause without having something to show for the fact they donated.
     
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    there shirts are red were would they have put the poppy !
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    I think you'll find...

    its the PC brigade that preach 'People have died so I have the right not to wear a poppy' crap ..........

    Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.... its just nice that a team that represents my town/City would have a poppy on their shirt.

    Me and PC dont gell to well together
     
  9. Stu

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    The point was that

    Putting pressure on people to do something (i.e. wear a poppy) not only seems a long way from what it is supposed to represent, but also feels a lot like this 'political correctness' that you profess to hate. In other words, you are being PC!
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    And who are we...

    putting'pressure on to wear a poppy'??? You must mean the players?? - the same ones that probably turn up for the game with one in their lapel?? - I dont get your point?

    Just to remind you - mine was, it would be a nice gesture for a club that represents a set of supporters to have one on their shirts.... raffle the shirts of after the game and all proceeds go to the respective charities..... nobody is 'forced' to do anything and the club makes a gesture that is endorsed my 100% of its supporters.

    .... the PC debate shouldn't enter into the equation.... but eh, we all know it ultimately does.... doesn't it
     
  11. Stu

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    'Hang your heads in shame'

    Sounds like politically correct pressure to me.
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    Sounds like a mighty fine comment to me.... nt
     
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    Nobody is under pressure? By your comments alone you are putting pressure on them to have poppies put onto their shirts. Why? Why does it matter? Manchester United DO give money to the poppy appeal, the players CHOOSE to wear poppies on their suits and fergie has one on his in the dugout, what gives you the right to criticise them for CHOOSING not to put one on their kit?
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    'what gives you the right to criticise them for CHOOSING not to put one on their kit' .... i give myself the right - aren't you professing freedom of speech to go with freedom of choice?
     
  15. Stu

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    I see

    So, political correctness is fine when you do it?

    Okay dokey.
     
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    For the record.

    On-screen presenters, guests and contributors 'should' wear poppies from October 23rd, but it is entirely optional - if they choose not to, they don't have to.
     
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    Fair enough

    I do recall a debate on it a year or 2 ago though.
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    I find...

    Your association with what I've said, and your definition of 'political correctness' baffling ....... but, each to his own matey
     

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